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Old 02-18-2013, 04:14 PM   #16
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I took my thermarest pad to the Cromag rally and it's now in the surplus pile. It served me well for many years but with my advanced age I don't sleep as well as I used to. Santa brought me a Big Agnes insulated and while I haven't had it out camping yet, I'm looking forward to Rick's Rendezvous this Spring to give a good try.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:28 PM   #17
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:35 PM   #18
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I used a Thermarest foam pad for years tho recently had a chance to sleep on an air pad- huge difference. I ran right out and bought one, an Exped Synmat Basic 7.5 w/ an external Pillow-Pump. The mattress is much more comfortable (deeper), is lighter, & packs smaller than the Thermarest and the pillow pump is way better that the fleece bag stuffed with clothes I use to use for a pillow. Highly recommended.


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Old 02-27-2013, 11:23 AM   #19
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Last year I bought both a Thermarest "30th Anniversary" mattress and the new Neoair.

After comparing the two, I'd have to say I'm a Neoair convert. It packs down tiny and only weighs 1lb. To give you an idea of the difference, the Neoair does not contain open celled foam like a regular Thermarest, which is why it packs super small and weighs less.

The downfall of the old "air only" pads are they weren't very warm. The Neoair has a heat reflective material built in. You can actually feel the heat gain as you first settle into the mattress.

My setup is the Neoair and the Thermarest cotton sheet that slips onto the mattress. Their "Alpine Down Blanket" then snaps to the sheet so you don't roll off the mattress in the middle of the night. This setup is rated down to 35F and is very roomy too - not like a typical mummy bag. All 3 items (mattress, sheet, blanket) pack down smaller than most modern sleeping bags.
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Old 02-27-2013, 12:42 PM   #20
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big agnes bag and pad! the absolute only way to go!
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Old 02-27-2013, 05:11 PM   #21
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Everyone's different. I'm a big guy (6'2"), a side sleeper and suffer from Arthritis.

The Symat 9 deluxe Pump (I believe now called Symat 9 LW) is very comfy and warm and packs small. It really is a great pad.

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Old 02-27-2013, 10:16 PM   #22
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Exped is a really nice pad. I have the synmat 7. I think it's 4" thick! Used to have a thermarest but got tired of the bulk and switched to a big Agnes which I could never seem to get comfy on, last summer got an Exped and was such a happy camper!
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Old 02-28-2013, 07:27 AM   #23
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Everyone's different. I'm a big guy (6'2"), a side sleeper and suffer from Arthritis.

The Symat 9 deluxe Pump (I believe now called Symat 9 LW) is very comfy and warm and packs small. It really is a great pad.

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I had a Thermorest and it just didn't cut it for my side sleeping style. I bought the same mattress and love it. Just bought my first Big Agnes bag and my Exped Synmat 9 will fit into the sleeve on the bottom of the bag. This should help in not getting twisted up in the bag. Really looking for weather to break here to try this out.
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Old 02-28-2013, 08:14 PM   #24
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Nobody says anything about air leaks?? My previous 'not that cheap' cheapo mattress ended up with multiple thorn holes rendering it useless on only the 3rd night of a 3 week trip. This was in a tent with a separate canvas ground sheet. Was I just unlucky or is this relatively normal? I have now absconded with my wife's closed cell foam yoga mat! Which won't leak but 2 cm thick and limited compressibility (light though) not that comfortable and not the easiest to pack.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:59 PM   #25
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The Thermarest Neoair XLite is the best I have come across. They come in several different length. The short weighs in at about 8 ounces and is very compact, roll to about 3" x 9". I slept on one for about 100 nights on a thru-hike of the Appalachian Trail this year, not a single leak. Kinda pricey.
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Old 03-03-2013, 12:18 PM   #26
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Nobody says anything about air leaks?? My previous 'not that cheap' cheapo mattress ended up with multiple thorn holes rendering it useless on only the 3rd night of a 3 week trip. This was in a tent with a separate canvas ground sheet. .
If you put a pad down anywhere you have thorns that can make it thru that, I think you'd have problems with a Thermarest foam or air pad really. The Exped comes with a patch kit which I've never had to use, then again its fairly new too. It comes down to trade offs. If comfort/weight & pack size are important, go air but if you do, stay away from the briar patch :)
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Old 03-03-2013, 05:32 PM   #27
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Ive got a Thermarest , Exped Syn & now the new Nemo , the Nemo's the most comfortable & has a built in pillow . The exped's still a great pad .
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Old 03-04-2013, 10:26 AM   #28
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I have repared my thermarest 2-3times. The first time it got flat at -18c outside, didnt sleep that well that night

Still use it tho, as I cant figure out what else suits me and my wallet.
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:11 PM   #29
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Those Expeds are not cheap. It looks like I need to save my coins...
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Old 03-04-2013, 05:16 PM   #30
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Those Expeds are not cheap. It looks like I need to save my coins...


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They are worth it. I sleep better on my expeds than my bed at home, I think she paid 1500 for that mattress
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