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Old 02-27-2013, 03:40 PM   #74161
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Ok, I see that but (as you said) it is talking about service limits on old rings and doesn't say anything about new clearances. It is the Engine Components Inspection section.

I guess Suzuki might be that confident of their tolerances but every other shop manual I have ever used has recommended measuring the gaps on new rings. A noob reading this might reasonably assume that zero gap is what you want or that new rings don't have to be measured.

BTW, I am using Snag-It off my PDF copy of the manual to post images.
Mine shows it under specs (9-4) .012-.018" top and .018-.024" 2nd ring.

I wouldn't run the .012" if it was mine. I would go with .018" top and .020" second if you want to keep with what suzuki reccomends. Are you using a stock piston? Different piston materials transfer heat differently- and heat is what causes a ring gap to get narrower. If I was running an aftermarket piston I would probably run .020" top and .023" 2nd ring.

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Old 02-27-2013, 05:12 PM   #74162
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What is this part?

Back, bottom right of cylinder. It seems to be leaking some oil. Maybe done gasket?

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Old 02-27-2013, 05:24 PM   #74163
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Back, bottom right of cylinder. It seems to be leaking some oil. Maybe done gasket?

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Cam chain tensioner, or oil line.

Not unknown for the tensioners to leak it seems, and not too hard to fix.

Get engine to TDCC and remove. Remove cap, unwind tensioner until it locks. Assemble with a new gasket after cleaning surfaces, or bog up what you have with sealant. Unlock tensioner and replace cap.
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:13 PM   #74164
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I would like to verify

Choke on or close the choke means pulling the lever(pulling the knob on other bikes) correct?
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:41 PM   #74165
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Cam chain tensioner, or oil line.
I just noticed mine decided to leak. :-| (at 44,118 miles)

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Not unknown for the tensioners to leak it seems, and not too hard to fix.
It's not too hard to fix, but make sure you understand what you need to do. Some time ago C2C4C killed his cam chain doing it wrong.
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Get engine to TDCC and remove. Remove cap, unwind tensioner until it locks. Assemble with a new gasket after cleaning surfaces, or bog up what you have with sealant. Unlock tensioner and replace cap.


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I would like to verify

Choke on or close the choke means pulling the lever toward the rider (pulling the knob on other bikes) correct?
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Old 02-27-2013, 07:50 PM   #74166
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heard a good bit of negatives on the moose bearings, where is a source for some better kits for the rear wheel? cush bearing is toast and I was going to replace the rear wheel bearings also. need new cush rubbers as well so I was about to order from Procycle but I saw they have to moose bearings.
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:00 PM   #74167
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I did the Moose bearings once and have since decided that the OEM Zuki bearings are better for me. Just remove the seals from the old bearings and double seal the OEM bearings.

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Old 02-27-2013, 08:27 PM   #74168
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did they make it to the next tire change? lol seriously I need to get some on the way asap, no local zuki dealer where is a good place to order?

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I did the Moose bearings once and have since decided that the OEM Zuki bearings are better for me. Just remove the seals from the old bearings and double seal the OEM bearings.

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Old 02-27-2013, 08:41 PM   #74169
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Did they make it to the next tire change? lol seriously I need to get some on the way asap, no local zuki dealer. Where is a good place to order?
No local Zuki dealer, in Fla? I thought that state was bumper to bumper tourists. Sure, they lasted to the next tire change. But once the ????? were in my head, I decided not to use them again. Bike Bandit and Ron Ayers are two favorites.

Edit: Pick Bike Bandit, Ayers waited a week to send me parts; waiting on something petty (don't remember).
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Old 02-27-2013, 08:50 PM   #74170
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Moose and suzuki dont make bearings; they buy them from someone else. Take the old bearings to a bearing supply house and ask for quality replacements. They should be able to set you right up.

Edit: I have an account with Applied Bearings but I think they sell to the public too. They have several locations and it has never taken more than 2 days to get stuff.

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Old 02-27-2013, 10:38 PM   #74171
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heard a good bit of negatives on the moose bearings, where is a source for some better kits for the rear wheel? cush bearing is toast and I was going to replace the rear wheel bearings also. need new cush rubbers as well so I was about to order from Procycle but I saw they have to moose bearings.
Post 74274 on this thread. Eakins posted bearing info, one page back
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Old 02-28-2013, 02:31 AM   #74172
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I've been buying SKF from Napa or a bearing shop lately.
They cost more but last longer.

Bearings:
-Front wheel bearings: SKF 6003-2RSJ
-Front wheel seal: 09284-23001
-Rear wheel bearings: SKF 6204-2RSJ
2 x 6204 - 20x47x14
-Rear wheel seal (brake side): 09283-26019
1 x 26x47x7
-Lock nut from 2008 and newer: 08319-2118a
-Cush Hub bearing: SKF 6205-2RSJ
1 x 6205 - 25x52x15
-Cush Seal - 1 x 35x52x7
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Two 6003 2RS
Two 6204 2RS
One 6205 2RS
?

This is excellent info, thank you eakins - but what are the last three referring to?
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:44 AM   #74173
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I just noticed mine decided to leak. :-| (at 44,118 miles)

It's not too hard to fix, but make sure you understand what you need to do. Some time ago C2C4C killed his cam chain doing it wrong.


Yep.
Yeah, I actually don't understand what I need to do and don't want to kill my cam chain. More research I guess. I will start by ordering the seal.
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:58 AM   #74174
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This is excellent info, thank you eakins - but what are the last three referring to?
Bearings:
-Front wheel bearings: SKF 6003-2RSJ
-Front wheel seal: 09284-23001
-Rear wheel bearings: SKF 6204-2RSJ
2 x 6204 - 20x47x14
-Rear wheel seal (brake side): 09283-26019
1 x 26x47x7
-Lock nut from 2008 and newer: 08319-2118a
-Cush Hub bearing: SKF 6205-2RSJ
1 x 6205 - 25x52x15
-Cush Seal - 1 x 35x52x7
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Two 6003 2RS
Two 6204 2RS
One 6205 2RS

^^^ these three lines are the total number of bearings you need to order, i.e. you need two of the size 6003, etc.

The seals that my bearing house had were a bit taller than the original Suzuki seals so I ordered my seals directly from Suzuki (at Babbitt's On Line IIRC).

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Old 02-28-2013, 07:07 AM   #74175
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Thanks Eakins for sharing you're Ricor Install. I put the intiminators and springs in yesterday as well as a new rear spring. I know you are supposed to make one shock change at a time, but when I had it torn open, I put Race Tech springs in. :)

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