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Old 03-07-2013, 11:33 AM   #18406
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theoretically, NK retired. :( ALthough that doesnt mean he wouldnt try.

I want to talk him into some east coast rallies if nothing else.
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Old 03-07-2013, 11:51 AM   #18407
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Old 03-07-2013, 02:00 PM   #18408
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How about you Jimmy? I think Ned would be a great addition.
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:06 PM   #18409
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It is about top riders and winning, not the best washed up guy who might make a good waterboy. And I'm talking about myself there...
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:03 PM   #18410
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It seems to me that any of the top 5 racers in any of the top US off-road series has the talent. The bigger question is who has the commitment ? These guys need to put food on the table, and I don't see the sponsors stepping up to the level needed to put an American on top of the podium at the Dakar. Until rally racing can be grown and sold to the American motorcycling public, the sponsors will continue to market hoodies and flatbill caps.
Maybe if we had a respected American motorcyclist / race promoter start up a feeder series
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Old 03-08-2013, 08:34 AM   #18411
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You can put a solid team together with the experience you've had. Kurt as #1 and Ned as his water carrier. Follow up with Quinn and Jonah and their respective water carriers. How much more solid can you get?
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:20 AM   #18412
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you can put a solid team together with the experience you've had. Kurt as #1 and ned as his water carrier. Follow up with quinn and jonah and their respective water carriers. How much more solid can you get?
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Old 03-08-2013, 09:45 AM   #18413
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I'd have to say Caselli for sure after this year, but certainly Quinn Cody, Cody Webb, and Colton Udall and I'm sure there are a handful of others, but as we've seen with so many others, it has a lot more to do with the team, the bike, and the support rather than just the skill of the rider. It isn't so much as to which American rider has the skills, it's which American rider can put together a package up to the task.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:57 AM   #18414
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I'd have to say Caselli for sure after this year, but certainly Quinn Cody, Cody Webb, and Colton Udall and I'm sure there are a handful of others, but as we've seen with so many others, it has a lot more to do with the team, the bike, and the support rather than just the skill of the rider. It isn't so much as to which American rider has the skills, it's which American rider can put together a package up to the task.
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I think that's really the issue here. The right rider is certainly important, but strictly youth/strength and a top rider elsewhere really doesn't guarantee anything in Dakar. Kurt is a good fit in general, but he's admitted that he's always hoped for Dakar in his future. He's just moving on his intended path and he's no spring chicken either. He's turning thirty and Cyril's what, 33? I think half the field (finishers) are 30-40?

I think a well placed consistent rider could push their way into the podium like Coma and Despres if that was their focus. (year round practice, testing, etc) I haven't looked at the records in a while but I don't recall if their ISDE and enduro records were of any note before they became the kings of Dakar... Cyril started out in trials, Coma I'm not so sure.

It really comes down to team and attitude. One might think you can't get it out of a washed up water boy, but aside of KTM how many of those 10-25th place have the real support of the front runners? Would they be more competitive if they knew they could swap an engine at a refuel?

Someone else mentioned it here, Jonah's decision to drop wasn't from a distaste from Dakar, it was lack of funding/support. Charlie and crew have done a great job, but if there was a KTM or HRC sized budget, I'm thinking he might have had another go.

A real 'American' effort needs to have the legs before it can run...
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Old 03-12-2013, 09:30 AM   #18415
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Now Looks Official

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Old 03-12-2013, 12:23 PM   #18416
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glad to see Kurt with a 3 year contract!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:39 PM   #18417
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That's huge... anybody know where Depres ended up??
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Old 03-12-2013, 12:39 PM   #18418
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That's huge... anybody know where Depres ended up??

Honda maybe
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Old 11-11-2013, 11:42 AM   #18420
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I know it's a bit early, but I was getting my ducks in a row for 2014 Dakar viewing and I tried the links that I used last year, with no luck. Does anyone have any advise? Thx
This is not something that we like to talk openly about much for obvious reasons. Please consider editing your post, removing all reference to links and whatnot.

Try pm'ing a couple of guys a day or two before the event or maybe on the 1st day.
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