MaxSYM vs Citycom

Phipsd · 03-08-2013, 10:11 AM

I came across a post from an Australian review site from the owner of a Citycom 300 who had traded it for the new MaxSym 400. The short answer is that initially he was very disappointed.

The 400 is much slower off the line, has less storage space and uses more fuel although he says he's getting 350 km from a 15 litre tank so it can't be that bad. The larger 400 won't filter through traffic like the smaller Citycom; big surprise.

On the plus side the 400 comes into it's own on the freeway at 110kph. It's much more relaxed running at lower rpm and is more stable in traffic, not getting buffeted around as much. He likes the seating position on the 400, he can sit forward in calm air behind the shield and this makes the bike very stable.

Personally I find this is also true of my Citycom. Moving forward on the seat even a small amount makes the bike much more stable and I may not be sitting in still air behind my shield, but there is no buffeting.

There was a complaint about the Citycom running close to redline at freeway speeds and the 400 having decent passing power above 110 kph which the Com doesn't have.

If we are talking optimistic Korean indicated speeds; my Citycom cruises at it's best at an indicated 120 kph at 7000 rpm, still well below redline. It is true there won't be any passing power above that but the bike runs well up to that point.

It was a thoughtful post full of interesting generalizations but no specifics as to speeds and rpm's between the two bikes. Still, a lack of storage is a lack of storage and gutless is gutless, so now I guess I won't be pining for the MaxSym.

Cortez · 03-11-2013, 08:27 AM

Most 400-500cc scoots seem to be "geared" that way - ie no guts
down low, usually performing just slightly better (or not better at all)
then 250-300cc 22hp class.

Easy fix, though.

Phipsd · 03-14-2013, 04:27 PM

I would think that the 400 Touring scoots of which the MaxSym is one would benefit even more than most from the wider gearing range offered by Dr Pulley sliders, especially at the low end. It makes me wonder why they are not OE on new scooters.

Cortez · 03-15-2013, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phipsd

I would think that the 400 Touring scoots of which the MaxSym is one would benefit even more than most from the wider gearing range offered by Dr Pulley sliders, especially at the low end. It makes me wonder why they are not OE on new scooters.

Probably cost.

I'd be surprised if the big manufacturers pay more then just a couple
bucks for a set of rollers, and they'd have to pay at least 50-60% of
MSRP of the sliders to get them from unionmaterial.com under a
contract.

Just a guess.

From my experience, bigger the scoot, better chances of having a
huge difference with sliders. Mine went from 11 to 9 seconds from
0 to 60 which is a huge difference.. and I got 500 revs less at speeds
from 65mph and up. That's an amazing improvement.

I got more of the same with an aftermarket cvt AND sliders in it, but
it took a lot of experimenting.

03-08-2013, 10:11 AM	#1
Phipsd ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2010 Location: West coast British Columbia Oddometer: 224	MaxSYM vs Citycom I came across a post from an Australian review site from the owner of a Citycom 300 who had traded it for the new MaxSym 400. The short answer is that initially he was very disappointed. The 400 is much slower off the line, has less storage space and uses more fuel although he says he's getting 350 km from a 15 litre tank so it can't be that bad. The larger 400 won't filter through traffic like the smaller Citycom; big surprise. On the plus side the 400 comes into it's own on the freeway at 110kph. It's much more relaxed running at lower rpm and is more stable in traffic, not getting buffeted around as much. He likes the seating position on the 400, he can sit forward in calm air behind the shield and this makes the bike very stable. Personally I find this is also true of my Citycom. Moving forward on the seat even a small amount makes the bike much more stable and I may not be sitting in still air behind my shield, but there is no buffeting. There was a complaint about the Citycom running close to redline at freeway speeds and the 400 having decent passing power above 110 kph which the Com doesn't have. If we are talking optimistic Korean indicated speeds; my Citycom cruises at it's best at an indicated 120 kph at 7000 rpm, still well below redline. It is true there won't be any passing power above that but the bike runs well up to that point. It was a thoughtful post full of interesting generalizations but no specifics as to speeds and rpm's between the two bikes. Still, a lack of storage is a lack of storage and gutless is gutless, so now I guess I won't be pining for the MaxSym.

03-11-2013, 08:27 AM	#2
Cortez BAZINGA! Joined: Apr 2006 Location: Croatia Oddometer: 3,992	Most 400-500cc scoots seem to be "geared" that way - ie no guts down low, usually performing just slightly better (or not better at all) then 250-300cc 22hp class. Easy fix, though. __________________ '12 Kymco Downtown 300i ABS, '08 Yamaha FZ6n S2 ABS SOLD: '03 Peugeot Speedfight2, '07 Kawasaki ER6F ABS, '06 Kymco Agility 125 My Flickr gallery

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03-14-2013, 04:27 PM	#3
Phipsd ^OP Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2010 Location: West coast British Columbia Oddometer: 224	I would think that the 400 Touring scoots of which the MaxSym is one would benefit even more than most from the wider gearing range offered by Dr Pulley sliders, especially at the low end. It makes me wonder why they are not OE on new scooters.