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Old 03-15-2013, 09:27 PM   #1
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Charlie…?

Not that Charlie so just keep reading…

Being on this great ride at the moment (Chix…) - and no one can explain to me why the tail man rider is called Charlie?
Can anyone here explain?

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Old 03-15-2013, 09:44 PM   #2
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WW 2 ref - per wiktionary

I can't wait to hear what the "chic" version will be!! Just don't upset the boys















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Old 03-15-2013, 09:44 PM   #3
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It is a term that was regularly used in the army, that has been adapted to bikes.

In a rifle section when on a patrol, the last man is called either; tail-end charlie or arse-end charlie.

I believe it stems from the RAF, regarding either the last plane in formation or the rear end gunner.

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http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Tail_End_Charlie
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:49 PM   #4
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That's all very well, but " the MAN guarding "....

On a chix ride it's clearly a reference the charles angels.
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Old 03-15-2013, 09:50 PM   #5
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G'day Dorthe,

"Charlie" was an old slang name used in (mainly) UK to refer to someone whose name was not known, much like the yanks used "Joe". There seems to be no real reason recorded as to why the name Charlie, instead of any others, was used

So in the term "Tail End Charlie" it referred to the last man or plane in a group when the identity of said tail ender wasn't known to all in group. It became well known during & after WW2 due to it's use to designate the last aircraft in the bombing groups over Europe during that war.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:42 PM   #6
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It’s from the etymology nomenclature from the avarian school of thought. Because so many birds were called “Yellow Bellied Sap Suckers”, it was decided by the “Birdos” that an appropriate Latin name should be given to the last bird in a flock (or gaggle, or parliament or murder). The name originally given was Charlieus Incredibilius Extremeius – named by Lady Dorthe (always lagging behind) Kroghinberger– a noted Danish “Birdo” in the 18th century who was infamous for always being the last person to arrive. This was ultimately shortened to Charlie. Hence the last person (or thing) to arrive is now called Charlie.
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:47 PM   #7
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Old 03-15-2013, 10:58 PM   #8
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Because the forward scout is Bruce... Tail end Bruce didn't have the same 'ring' to it.
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:58 PM   #9
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Shouldn't that be "New-Bruce" then?
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:19 AM   #10
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So the Aussie version should be "butt end Bazza" then.




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Old 03-17-2013, 04:24 AM   #11
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It just occurred to me to ask if there might be any connection to the Carl Gustov or "Charley Guts-Ache" recoilless rifle.
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It just occurred to me to ask if there might be any connection to the Carl Gustov or "Charley Guts-Ache" recoilless rifle.
No. The biggest bloke carries the CG, if its taken out of it's bag. We never took it on patrol.
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Old 03-17-2013, 01:34 PM   #13
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Because the forward scout is Bruce... Tail end Bruce didn't have the same 'ring' to it.

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Old 03-17-2013, 02:47 PM   #14
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So the Aussie version should be "butt end Bazza" then.




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G'day Dorthe,

"Charlie" was an old slang name used in (mainly) UK to refer to someone whose name was not known, much like the yanks used "Joe". There seems to be no real reason recorded as to why the name Charlie, instead of any others, was used

So in the term "Tail End Charlie" it referred to the last man or plane in a group when the identity of said tail ender wasn't known to all in group. It became well known during & after WW2 due to it's use to designate the last aircraft in the bombing groups over Europe during that war.
Hi Dave
Thanks for the explanations... much appreciated. We did have the WW2-thought on the table - close but not close enough.

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That's all very well, but " the MAN guarding "....
On a chix ride it's clearly a reference the charles angels.
The WW2-reference clearly makes sense... but like this one better

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