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Old 03-16-2013, 09:01 PM   #16306
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Great info, thanks for that response! Yes, I might find the bike too nice to take off road and leave that work for the F650.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:29 AM   #16307
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Great info, thanks for that response! Yes, I might find the bike too nice to take off road and leave that work for the F650.
I think you'll be leaving the F650 at home more and more. The Triple800 is so flexible, as you mention in a previous post, that you can run it at tickover with hands off the throttle, the injection software is that good. I look at the roadie as being like the Scrambler900. i.e. It'll do quite knarly tracks if you want it to. I surprised a lot of people taking my Scram where it wasn't supposed to go.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:50 AM   #16308
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Just finished mounting my new Mega Tool Tube.


An idea for you.....
If your plate at the lid end is thick enough, you can thread that centre hole and use a bolt through it to lock the lid. It stops thieves getting in and also stop the lid unscrewing itself whilst you're riding.



Actually, what I did is use a thick plate inside the mount as a clamp plate. You can just see the bolt going into a blind hole in the lid.


Yes I know my plates need painting.
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Old 03-17-2013, 05:23 AM   #16309
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Yes that is a good idea and I considered doing that while
I was making the plate but I want to keep the tube
waterproof if I can.
I drilled the third hole anyway so I still have the option.
May add a Ram mount ball there for a GoPro.
Need to think about how to secure the lid some more.
Thanks for the idea though! :-)
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Old 03-17-2013, 08:26 AM   #16310
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Yes that is a good idea and I considered doing that while
I was making the plate but I want to keep the tube
waterproof if I can.
Need to think about how to secure the lid some more.
Thanks for the idea though! :-)
I just bought the "locking" version of the tube, came with a short cable and small lock.

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Old 03-17-2013, 09:35 AM   #16311
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XC risers and Rox Risers on a Roadie.

I needed the height so I could stand more comfortably. No problem with the cables or wires. Although the clutch cable is at it's limit with this set up. I put a piece of door edge molding on the right gas tank mounting flange(?). Didn't want the cable jacket to get messed up on the metal edge at full lock.



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Old 03-17-2013, 01:00 PM   #16312
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I go 175lbs and found the suspension to be pretty stiff around the city. Generally speaking, are you finding good results with revalving/respringing the showa shock and forks? For those that outright replaced the shock with a fully adjustable one, was it hands-down worth it, or do you feel a good suspension shop can dial in the showa shock?
yes, the Ohlins comes with a lifetime warranty so I never have to dick with it again. Revalving is great but its set up for you, and that sucks when you go to sell it to someone else. I think having the good warranty saves you money in the long run. And it's probably not really that much more money...
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Old 03-17-2013, 01:30 PM   #16313
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yes, the Ohlins comes with a lifetime warranty so I never have to dick with it again.
But Oehlins are often off the shelf and not done for your weight. Or did you get a proper spring explicitly for your weight? If yes, where?

Wilbers builds the shock exactly for you and what you do with the bike, price is about the same as Oehlins, 5 years warranty, properly rebuildable.
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Old 03-17-2013, 01:52 PM   #16314
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Rear shock

I've replaced mine with a fully adjustable one from Hyperpro. Built from the ground up for my specs. Definetely cheaper than Ohlins, propably just as good .

Worth the money; can't say yet since it's only been 500 km's but already I have a feeling I'm not going to regret the investment.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:36 PM   #16315
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XC ergonomics

Thanks for the input guys.

I'd like to cycle back to a few XC questions - I don't want to dismiss the bike too soon based on my feel of the riding position...

Since it looks like the bars can be swept up and back, that should take care of being more upright...

Can the pegs be moved down and forward by chance? I felt i was in a bit of a crouch.

Lastly, I'd say the bike was maybe 1 - 1.5" too high for my preferences (5-10, 32 inseam). My thinking is that once I toss bags on, I'm getting closer on the rear. For those that have lowered the bike, have you found that it didn't compromise the handling too much?

Here's my bigger picture thinking - The engine and transmission are perfect for my low speed needs around SF and plenty of power for everything else. If I can get the ergo's proper (which was the Roadie's out-of-the-box advantage), then the XC allows me to do my modest and occasional dual-sporting without concern. Also, my feeling is that there is more room to work with for dialing in the suspension to my liking since I'm really not looking to exploit every inch of travel - I just want it to absorb bumps a bit better than my F650 (Ohlins shock, stock front with intiminators)- it shouldn't be too damn hard i figure :)

And regarding ergos - I haven't even considered that the seat can be addressed as well.
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Old 03-17-2013, 02:52 PM   #16316
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Ever seen this? Maybe it will help. http://cycle-ergo.com/

I found it to be virtually identical to my '09 DR650. Boots make a difference too. I'm 5'11" with a 32" inseam and can flat foot the DR with my riding boots on.
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Old 03-17-2013, 03:03 PM   #16317
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Can the pegs be moved down and forward by chance? I felt i was in a bit of a crouch.
I don't think you can easily move them forward, but there are a few options to make them more comfortable, wider, lower:

SW Motech On/Off Road Pegs (lower/wider)
Touratech Works (wider, more open, not sure about lower)
Pivot Pegz (pivoting, wider, don't think they'll mount lower)

If I'd look into anything at all, I'd get either the SW Motech or the Touratech. Didn't find the pivot pegs useful at all when I had them on my R1200GS.

But first of all: take the rubber out and try again. You'll get nearly an inch seat-to-peg distance which helps a lot.

Unfortunately Fastway doesn't make their pegs for the Tiger, it's a real bummer because these are probably the best combination of them all.

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And regarding ergos - I haven't even considered that the seat can be addressed as well.
Regarding ergos you can do all adjustments to XC as well as Roadie. Parts are interchangeable. The main issue is: if you lower an XC to Roadie level, you'll have trouble with the softer suspension and scraping in corners. The suspension is softer and provides more travel - therefore, if you get them close together (said 1.5 inches), the Roadie will actually give you better ground clearance because of the harder suspension with less travel.

And the Roadie will already touch the pegs down fairly early, shortly followed by hard parts - which you certainly don't want. So, if canyon carving is in your mind, I would not lower the XC but get a Roadie. If you don't lower the XC, you should be okay.

I have a low and a standard seat for my Roadie and they give exactly the same reach to the ground. The standard seat is too soft, it lets you sink in after a few minutes, giving you the same reach to the ground, but you can very intimately feel how the plastic seat pan is shaped and where it hurts your behind. The low seat is much firmer, but has wide edges, making the reach to the ground actually more uncomfortable according to my wife (5'7", 32.5" inseam). For me it doesn't matter that much (34.5" inseam).

So, to get better reach to the ground: forget the Triumph low seat. Buy one with a better shape.

As said, the standard seat is way too soft, I'm planning on having mine re-done at Corbin on the stock pan for the stock height but with much firmer foam. Not sure whether and when I'll get to that though.

One more thing: The XC has tubed tires, the Roadie tubeless. I don't care much for tubed tires, therefore this was another argument for me to get the Roadie - plus the firmer suspension was a bit more stable for my typical riding. I'd have liked if Triumph had given the two a bit more "distance" from each other. A 17" front and a slightly wider rear on the Roadie + fully adjustable suspension would have been my dream bike.

Other than that: great bike! Yesterday on Highway 9:

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Old 03-17-2013, 03:20 PM   #16318
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Regarding hard parts touching down, I think that's what happened to these guys (at ~7:30):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuJrzm4q6Bk
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:27 PM   #16319
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But Oehlins are often off the shelf and not done for your weight. Or did you get a proper spring explicitly for your weight? If yes, where?

Wilbers builds the shock exactly for you and what you do with the bike, price is about the same as Oehlins, 5 years warranty, properly rebuildable.
it was ordered with the spring i chose. my dealer did it all.
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Old 03-17-2013, 04:31 PM   #16320
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I've replaced mine with a fully adjustable one from Hyperpro. Built from the ground up for my specs. Definetely cheaper than Ohlins, propably just as good .

Worth the money; can't say yet since it's only been 500 km's but already I have a feeling I'm not going to regret the investment.
mine was a warranty claim so i lucked out with the "price". my ohlins was ordered to my specs. everything is adjustable as well. the turn dials are on top so I can transition from highway to offroad and not even have to stop. its sweet!
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