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Old 03-17-2013, 09:25 PM   #4171
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:27 PM   #4172
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Went out to Rattlesnake Bay yesterday to join a friend and his fellow SERA members whom I enjoyed riding with even though I'm like 30+ years younger I found it fun and better rather than riding with some people who are my age Anyhow, we were riding to help get some tracks layed down on the trails for the upcoming Masterlinks ride and race, I'm not the fastest rider nor did it help riding a big 450 but I did hold my own, to me anyhow, they certainly got me wanting a ktm 2T now, or a cr250 like my buddy was riding. I learned from them to stay away from KDX's though, anyway here's the first video and more will follow as they are uploaded.


Hillclimb video from the single track. Yes I had some screwed up trouble, kept wanting to go right instead of left at the top.
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:32 PM   #4173
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I learned from them to stay away from KDX's though, anyway here's the first video and more will follow as they are uploaded.

So did your new "Expert" friends give you a reason to stay away from KDX's or is it typical snobbish "what I ride is better than what you ride" BS?
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Old 03-18-2013, 01:47 PM   #4174
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So did your new "Expert" friends give you a reason to stay away from KDX's or is it typical snobbish "what I ride is better than what you ride" BS?

I know alot of the SERA guys and I know the view they ahve on KDX bikes, and let me tell you this a KDX200 is one of the toughest two strokes made. it doesnt have the best of anything but you put a person on it that can ride it and it will compeat with a KTM anyday. it just takes the right rider, just like those of us that love XR400Rs in the woods. you think your KTM450 is heavy, right a XR400 through the woods, and I hate to say this but have you looked at teh weight of your 450 compared to a 2 stroke KTM I bet it's not much more weight, You have one of the best all round dirtbikes out there. its why I talked so strong about it before you picked it up. Now dont get me wrong I do like a 2 stroke but in the woods I think your 450 is better. I know you arent raceing off to get a nother bike but heres my advice anyway, spend more time on your 450 in the woods, if you are going to ride it more there get a second set of wheels and tires for dirt, and gear it back sock, and enjoy.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:44 PM   #4175
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I know alot of the SERA guys and I know the view they ahve on KDX bikes, and let me tell you this a KDX200 is one of the toughest two strokes made. it doesnt have the best of anything but you put a person on it that can ride it and it will compeat with a KTM anyday. it just takes the right rider, just like those of us that love XR400Rs in the woods. you think your KTM450 is heavy, right a XR400 through the woods, and I hate to say this but have you looked at teh weight of your 450 compared to a 2 stroke KTM I bet it's not much more weight, You have one of the best all round dirtbikes out there. its why I talked so strong about it before you picked it up. Now dont get me wrong I do like a 2 stroke but in the woods I think your 450 is better. I know you arent raceing off to get a nother bike but heres my advice anyway, spend more time on your 450 in the woods, if you are going to ride it more there get a second set of wheels and tires for dirt, and gear it back sock, and enjoy.
I so enjoy your advice on here, I love my 450 but I thought it being a 4 stroke it would weigh more by a fair bit, of course I have only read pages and pages of the good ole 2t vs 4t. I would like to have a 2 stroke eventually but certainly will keep my 450.

They weren't bashing the KDX badly just saying how it could barely lift a tire off the ground or go over trees, I've not rode one so IDK anything about this but they said they are great woods bikes but were just underpowered and stuff, sorry if it sounded like they said KDX's were the worst bikes made.
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Old 03-18-2013, 05:21 PM   #4176
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I so enjoy your advice on here, I love my 450 but I thought it being a 4 stroke it would weigh more by a fair bit, of course I have only read pages and pages of the good ole 2t vs 4t. I would like to have a 2 stroke eventually but certainly will keep my 450.

They weren't bashing the KDX badly just saying how it could barely lift a tire off the ground or go over trees, I've not rode one so IDK anything about this but they said they are great woods bikes but were just underpowered and stuff, sorry if it sounded like they said KDX's were the worst bikes made.

Oh I've heard all the KDX bashing, and it's funny to watch those guys get spanked by a good rider on one. it's not a real rev happy motor it makes a different type power then other two strokes. it also is heaver and has softer suspension. or at lest the ones that I have been around did, i haven't seen a newer one then a 01. and a MX bike will beat you to death in the woods. can you ride them there yes, can they be fast, yes, but in stock form the motors are really snappy and that tires your upper body out fast, the suspension is stiff and that beats on your lower body.

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FrameCentral tube frame made of chrome molybdenum steel tubing
ForkWP Suspension Up Side Down 4860 MXMA CC
Shock absorberWP Suspension 5018 BAVP DCC
Suspension travel Front300 mm (11.81 in)
Suspension travel Rear317 mm (12.48 in)
Brake systemDisc brakes, brake calipers on floating bearings
Brake discs - diameter Front260 mm (10.24 in)
Brake discs - diameter Rear220 mm (8.66 in)
Chain5/8 x 1/4"
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Ground clearance unloaded385 mm (15.16 in)
Seat height unloaded992 mm (39.06 in)
Total fuel tank capacity, approx.10 l (2.6 US gal)
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Weight without fuel, approx.104 kg (229 lb.)
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FrameCentral tube frame made of chrome molybdenum steel tubing
ForkWP Suspension Up Side Down 4860 MXMA CC
Shock absorberWP Suspension 5018 BAVP DCC
Suspension travel Front300 mm (11.81 in)
Suspension travel Rear317 mm (12.48 in)
Brake systemDisc brakes, brake calipers on floating bearings
Brake discs - diameter Front260 mm (10.24 in)
Brake discs - diameter Rear220 mm (8.66 in)
Chain5/8 x 1/4"
Steering head angle63.5
Wheelbase1,49510 mm (58.860.39 in)
Ground clearance, unloaded375 mm (14.76 in)
Seat height, unloaded992 mm (39.06 in)
Total fuel tank capacity, approx.9 l (2.4 US gal)
Super unleaded (ROZ 95/RON 95/PON 91)
Weight without fuel, approx.109.6 kg (241.6 lb.)


12.6 lbs heaver. and even if you go down to the 200XCW its only 20.1lbs less then the 450.

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Suspension travel Front300 mm (11.81 in)
Suspension travel Rear335 mm (13.19 in)
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Steering head angle63.5
Wheelbase1,47110 mm (57.910.39 in)
Ground clearance unloaded355 mm (13.98 in)
Seat height unloaded960 mm (37.8 in)
Total fuel tank capacity, approx.10 l (2.6 US gal)
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Weight without fuel, approx.100.2 kg (220.9 lb.)
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:52 PM   #4177
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sorry if it sounded like they said KDX's were the worst bikes made.
Don't apologize. I think most of us here would agree that they aren't all that great.
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Old 03-18-2013, 07:58 PM   #4178
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Don't apologize. I think most of us here would agree that they aren't all that great.
Come on... drink the Green Koolaid, too!
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:17 PM   #4179
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Look into my eyes and repeat after me, "I love the Orange Kool-Aid, I love the Orange Kool-Aid......"
I love the Orange Kool-Aid-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I Love the Orange Kool-Aid-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I Love the Orage Kool-Aid-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------NOW JUST WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO DO--------------------------

STILL TAKE MY GSA OVER IT FOR MY TYPE OF RIDING

but it is KOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL to run it on out ---FUN TOY---(did get it on a little dirt and threw a bunch of rocks----wonder where I got that Idea from)
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:19 PM   #4180
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Come on... drink the Green Koolaid, too!
THAT'S NOT KOOL-AID ----------- YOU HAVE A MOJITO---SMOOTH AND FAST AND GREEN (well sorta green)
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Old 03-18-2013, 11:29 PM   #4181
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Look into my eyes and repeat after me, "I love the Orange Kool-Aid, I love the Orange Kool-Aid......"
I hear the blue ones are slower and nap a lot like 650 Dakars.
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Old 03-19-2013, 03:47 AM   #4182
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I hear the blue ones are slower and nap a lot like 650 Dakars.



not that you would stir the pot
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:21 AM   #4183
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I hear the blue ones are slower and nap a lot like 650 Dakars.
I can confirm that mine is blue and has been known to nap on occasion.
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Old 03-19-2013, 12:16 PM   #4184
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I can confirm that mine is blue and has been known to nap on occasion.
Mine is damn near narcoleptic.
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Old 03-19-2013, 07:47 PM   #4185
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I know guys that can paint a turd green add 2 wheels and bars and call it a kdx and out ride most. It was a good bike back in the 1990s. But by todays bikes standards it is slow weak and heavy with crappy suspension. But still can be fun to ride with good tires. Bikes are evolving quickly. The bar is being raised evey year . If a rider is good or fast on an old bike he will be faster safer more comfortable on a more current bike. I see this happen all the time. Ride what you want and have fun. But a new bike is better than old bike.
The kdx was a good bike but the RMX250 was much better.
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