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Old 03-27-2013, 06:32 AM   #16
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I've been riding for 35 looooong years.
.I have had 12 Yamahas,.

I've had one bike in 35 years
I see your 12 Yamahas and raise you one BMW.
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:57 AM   #17
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Maybe the guys on KTM's wring their bike's necks regularly, and you ride...umm....more "sedately"
Or hardly at all.

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Old 03-27-2013, 07:05 AM   #18
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Memory whiplash.... Working at an HD/Kawasaki shop in the early 80's and a guy brought in his Z-bike for a slipping clutch. Turned out his clutch was fine, but he never lubed or adjusted his chain, and he'd worn the rear sprocket teeth to nothing and they pretty much had laid down towards flat. Whenever he got on it, there wasn't enough chain/sprocket engagement, so the chain would freewheel and rattle over the rear sprocket.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:30 AM   #19
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This just in....The bikes that see the most miles in a given year and the ones that are the most heavily modified by ham fisted back yard wrenches have a tendency to need more repairs!! SHOCKING!!!




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Old 03-27-2013, 07:50 AM   #20
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So I have had zero problems with the 2 BMW K-bikes I have owned.....

does that mean that I will have less than zero problems with the DRZ I just bought? Kinda' like a problem rebate?
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:13 AM   #21
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Could be a bit irrelevant when compared to what you like to ride.

After riding various brands I keep coming back to BMW because I like the way they ride.

I've also learned that with other "motorized" products.

Had two Seadoos once and sold them and got a Yamaha. The Yamaha never gave me any trouble. The Seadoos did. If I were to buy another pwc, I'd buy a Seadoo. Way more fun and performance.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:54 PM   #22
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I've had one bike in 35 years
I see your 12 Yamahas and raise you one BMW.
Ah, but has your bike been without any breakdowns over those years? Not that I expect a Yamaha to go that long either, but still, I've found them to be almost unbreakable...
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:43 PM   #23
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Ah, but has your bike been without any breakdowns over those years? Not that I expect a Yamaha to go that long either, but still, I've found them to be almost unbreakable...
As an ancient piece of machinery it is high maintannce but it's easy, obvious and cheap helped by great parts availability both OEM and after market.
It does need attention sometimes during an actual ride.

It's stopped once on me due to a dodgy relay in the ignition circut.
Not immobile just too much of a hassle to ride when safe storage, easy recovery and alternate transportation was available.

In my 20s I developed a management strategy for Yamahas.
The protocols transferd well to Kawasakis & Honda
It involved ride, weld, sell, replace & repeat.

With Ducs and Laverdas I could not break them ,
They were way too fast beating me to the puch every time and self destructing before I could do any real damage.

I do acknowlwdge modern Yamahas appear to be a superior product but they still feel like a disposable consumer item to me.


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Old 03-27-2013, 08:41 PM   #24
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Hah suck it bmw!! My Kawasaki kicks your ass!!
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:53 PM   #25
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.....riding the 950 and needless to say I was "on the gas". Running twin un-corked Leo's at the time.

Guy says to me:

"Holy fuck, I thought someone was bringing a protruck up the mountain"

Needless to say the 950 makes some beautiful sounds when you get in her ass.

As a 990 /Tenere /K1200GT owner, it is clear to me that the first Motorcycle to blow white exhaust smoke out of the Sistine Chapel's chimney will be God's motorcycle the Devine KTM.

The KTM speaks to me, the owner, like no other motorcycle I have owned. Before the Tenere, when I had to ride across the continent and just had to get there I always rode the KTM in lieu of the BMW.

Consumer Reports is where i turn to buy appliances like fridges, washers and cars. Motorcycles are visceral and there are so many uncontrolled variables. This is the first year of their study, and from what I have read they could have done their research in any bar or on Adventure Rider. The data will get better in the years to come.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:00 PM   #26
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Hah suck it bmw!! My Kawasaki kicks your ass!!
KLR, right?

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Old 03-27-2013, 10:09 PM   #27
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Japanese bikes are more reliable? this is news?
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:30 AM   #28
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Japanese bikes are more reliable? this is news?

Nope but the ones owned by the people polled had less problems. Too many holes in the story to jump to the bold claim made in the title.

Were all of the bikes broken in using the very same technique or the best technique suited to each brand and model ?

How many miles were placed on each bike ?

Were all the bikes of similar age and mileage ?

Did each bike from each manufacturer undergo the same level of maintenance ?

Were the bikes that had problems modified in any way mechanically ?

How was each bike ridden (relaxed pace/aggressively?) and where ?

Did any of the bikes sit for long periods of time ?

When the bikes did break down were they able to get parts/service quickly ?

Which brands were the most difficult to get parts/service for ?

How was Consumer reports able to verify any of this ?

etc,etc,etc.....
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The KTM speaks to me, the owner, like no other motorcycle I have owned.
I miss my 990


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Old 03-28-2013, 08:58 AM   #30
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I miss my 990


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