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Old 03-28-2013, 05:46 PM   #34276
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Can you explain this more-"roll over in corners". Does it do that on both street & dirt? I'm was just about to buy my first set of tires for it and was going to go with: 606's rear-120/90-18, front MT21 90/90-21. I don't see any 100 for their rear tire- do you just buy a 100 when you can find it in a brand you like?
I'm talking about the Trackmaster specifically. The sidewalls are fairly soft and when cornering hard, the knobs grip and the tire flexes a lot. This makes for a lot of grip in the dirt, but makes the bike kinda squirrelly on the road.

I feel the shorter sidewalls on the 100 allow the rear to rotate more effectively.


I had to swap a shagged 100 for a partially used 120 for a ride tomorrow. I'll let you know if I'm talking outta my ass!

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Old 03-28-2013, 05:50 PM   #34277
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I'll let you know if I'm talking outta my ass!

I'll already let you know that you do that!
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:48 PM   #34278
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While the Edge may look nice, it is a cheap piece of junk. Get them wet, and corrosion takes over on the circuit board. For dry street duty, they might be OK, but for dual sport duty, you need to spend a few minutes and seal them properly with silicone.

After one season of use:



At least the OEM light is tough and keeps water out.





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Sorry to say this, but ^^^^ that looks terrible,

the edge is worth every penny imho.
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:55 PM   #34279
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While the Edge may look nice, it is a cheap piece of junk. Get them wet, and corrosion takes over on the circuit board. For dry street duty, they might be OK, but for dual sport duty, you need to spend a few minutes and seal them properly with silicone.

After one season of use:



At least the OEM light is tough and keeps water out.
Hmm, I'm going to have to take a look at mine. ;) I have the 12 o'clock lab guts though so maybe they are more durable...
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Old 03-28-2013, 06:58 PM   #34280
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The Edge is too dim to be a safe street light. Add that to the fact that offroading will kill it, well, basically it's worthless!
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:50 PM   #34281
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I was really thinking of running a Kenda 270 on rear this season see how it does. I've always ran D606s... but may give a K270 a try
I don't know if you are thinking his pic you quoted was of a Kenda 270, but that's definitely not a 270 in the pic. That actually looks more like the Trackmaster.

BTW, anyone who's thinking of running the Kenda 270's take a good look at the Shinko 244's instead. They have much beefier side knobs that don't flex when leaned over and I think overall a more beefier tire with larger knobs. At the very least, don't run a K270 front. They suck horribly as a front tire. The 244 does much better. The rear isn't as bad, but it still gets very "un-easy" when you get over on those little bitty side knobs on the K270.

Shinko 244 on the Left, Kenda 270 on the right.




Rear tire. Again Shinko 244 on the Left, Kenda 270 on the right.




This is actually an XT600


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Old 03-28-2013, 08:43 PM   #34282
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Would you recommend the shinko 244 over the D606?
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:57 PM   #34283
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Would you recommend the shinko 244 over the D606?
I ran Shinko 244's on my KLR. I loved the first set, but then switched out the rear for another 244 and the center row of knobs broke off. Of course this happened on a street ride weekend. The tire never failed, but I came back early for fear of being stuck where I was on a Sunday with no bike stores open and a bad rear tire.

So no, I like the D606 over the Shinko 244. But YMMV.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:22 PM   #34284
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Would you recommend the shinko 244 over the D606?
Depends on your needs. The D606 is a very impressive tire and definitely more aggressive than the 244. But it also carries a much higher price tag.

If you want aggressive with decent road manners, the D606 is hard to beat. The 244 has great road manners, but still pretty decent in the dirt, but it certainly not going to be as good in the mud like 606 is.
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Old 03-28-2013, 09:24 PM   #34285
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I ran Shinko 244's on my KLR. I loved the first set, but then switched out the rear for another 244 and the center row of knobs broke off. Of course this happened on a street ride weekend. The tire never failed, but I came back early for fear of being stuck where I was on a Sunday with no bike stores open and a bad rear tire.

So no, I like the D606 over the Shinko 244. But YMMV.
I've heard of some people chunking the 244's and other tires too, but I've never chunked one and I've been pretty rough on them too.

I like the D606 too. Well at least the rear. I'm not a fan of the front, but its a pricier tire for sure.
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Old 03-28-2013, 10:21 PM   #34286
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I've heard of some people chunking the 244's and other tires too, but I've never chunked one and I've been pretty rough on them too.

I like the D606 too. Well at least the rear. I'm not a fan of the front, but its a pricier tire for sure.
No doubt at all - D606's are more expensive than the shinko 244's. I had also heard of the 244's chunking the knobs, but I ordered them anyway. I liked the first set for gravel roads and such. Never rode my KLR on trails to speak of.

I'm running D606's on my WR now and I'm hoping for some great performance from them. For the WR, I'd probably skip the 244's anyway in favor of something more aggressive. For the KLR, I liked the tread pattern of the 244 for 50/50 use. I didn't like the tire chunking knobs off it early in it's life. Its not a tire I would trust for a long trip due to the problem I experienced with it.
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:20 PM   #34287
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Just my two bits, I don't have a WR250R but I would love one, for now I have a DR350SE. I do however ride 270's front and rear, and think they are great. I have never rode 606's or 244's, but I don't have anything against the 270's they flex a little but I can throw my bike into the corners harder than my friend will push his weestrom.FWIW 270's have been great tires for me I ride everything from street, back and forth to work, to single track. I would really like to try 606's too though.
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Old 03-29-2013, 12:09 AM   #34288
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So after putting no miles on my new to me 08x, today I have ordered shinko 244s, flatland racing skid plate and radiator guard, Acerbis look alike hand guards, and an AFX FX-39 helmet. All based on recommendations that I have picked up on this thread after reading for the past 10 days of owning this bike. If I'm not pleased I will hold all of you responsible. Maybe I can get out and ride a little over the next couple days and try to finish off the stock rear tire that has about 2,500 miles on it. ( bike was bought as a new left over last year by po). Thinking I'll keep the stock exhaust for a while, maybe install the K&N filter that the po bought but was told he shouldn't run? Thoughts? I'm more excited to get this bike out than my 08 street glide sitting next to it! Also gonna try out my Milwaukee tools heated jacket under my leather to knock down the chill.

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Old 03-29-2013, 04:56 AM   #34289
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Hey, welcome to ADVrider! Like your handle, it's very similar to what my wife calls me . She says I'm _______ all the time.

I feel your pain - I've had my WR for almost two weeks and have ridden it all of 22 miles so far due to work interference and weather. It looks like this weekend is going to be nice, though, with temps in the mid-50's and dry Saturday . Sunday is reserved for doing stuff with family and grandkids. I've got to lower my bike some, got the links and knowledge, just haven't had time or opportunity yet. I've ridden dirt most of my life and this bike is tops of all the dualsports I've owned, looking forward to putting it through it's paces. I've thought about a pipe too, but after reading all the conflicting opinions, requisite mods to the fuel mapping etc., and complaints of being too noisy I think I'll stick with stock for a while. I put a $700 after-market header and pipe (cat eliminator) on my GS and liked the performance difference (mostly from reduced weight - 27 pounds, 5% of the bike's total weight ) but it was sofa king loud I couldn't stand it and took it off after only 2000 miles and it has lived in a box in my shed ever since. No one else liked all that noise either, but I really do think cagers noticed me more because of it.

Speaking of tires, my bike has Michelin somethings on it and came with a new set of Shinko 244s for when those wear out soon. I've run several sets of Shinko 705 radials on my 1150GS and have really liked them, so I hope the DS tires hold up as well. The 705s are 1/2 the price of similar Dunlops, Metzelers, Michelins, etc. that I've run on the Big Pig and I actually like their performance better than the more expensive tires. I've gotten the same mileage from the Shinkos even though the rubber is a bit softer and the tread blocks are a bit bigger. Because they're cheaper I don't feel constrained from doing the occassional roost, powerslide, or burn-out on the GS . I think a set of 244s for the WR cost under $80, hard to beat that.

I hope you can get out and put a few miles on your new WR this weekend!

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Old 03-29-2013, 05:37 AM   #34290
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...Since buying my WR-R new in February 2010 I've run the Bridgestone stockers, then Michelin T63s, then Pirelli MT21s, then D606s and now am on my third Pirelli MT43 DOT trials tire on the rear. Of everything I've tried these are my favorites on the rear by far. Great traction for all the kinds of riding I do and they last about 3K miles. One of the best things about the MT43s is that they seem to perform about as well when nearly gone as when new.

I've been running the D606 fronts with the MT43 rears but these fronts cup so badly I decided next time to go with a MT21 front, which isn't directional like the D606, so I can turn it around when half worn out.
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