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Old 01-27-2013, 06:34 PM   #16
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With a couple of months to get ready for riding, the new scoot is going to need a few things.

Protection - hand-guards (Highway Dirt Bike looks interesting for their integration of mirrors, and my GS has me spoiled for heated grips, so a clean integrated switch mount is another plus. Skid plate - I am intrigued by "composite" bits. The KTM unit looks like a bit of a dirt scoop in the front. Anyone tried the TM or Hyde piece?

Handling. I am going to give it a season or two on the stock dampers. Sprung for my weight however. I have a Scotts damper sub mounted on my 300, I think it will make a move over to the new bike.

Drive train. I've been spoiled by an auto-clutch on my 300, it is a magical thing. High on the to-do list for the 350. Re-gearing for trails is also in order I guess. Still trying to figure out what to try first! I didn't notice if the chain has a master-link or not. Sticking with the stock chain length would be nice.

That's probably about all I can get away with at the moment. My wife was very encouraging about getting a new bike, but one can get carried away farkling!
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Old 01-29-2013, 08:12 AM   #17
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Did someone say KTM 350EXC?

Is this just too pretty to get dirty? I think not!



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Old 03-25-2013, 11:41 AM   #18
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Is this just too pretty to get dirty? I think not!
Nice looking bike man! Planning on picking mine up in a few weeks :) Couldn't be more stoked!

Is the orange trim on the rims stock?
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Old 03-25-2013, 12:32 PM   #19
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Howdy all!

And yes, the 350 EXC-F simply rocks.

Back in November of 2011, I got one of the first 2012 KTM 350 EXC-F's in Oregon (USA). Having some time on my hands, I decided to "start from the beginning" and "do it up right."

What I did was take a 'brandy-new' Katoom from Day 1 all the way through initial check-out, break-in and riding.
I documented all of the set-up procedures and tips that I have accumulated over the years through personal trial-n-error (woops! well, that didn't work very well) and the fantastic wealth of information from all of the riders and bike builders on KTMTalk.com.

I also documented what I think are the best aftermarket additions and "bling" for this bike. Not every one will agree with some of these set-ups and/or tips ... but they are the ones that have worked best for me over many, many years of riding and all are proven.

One other thing. A LOT of the tips will seem to be *VERY* basic to most experienced riders and racers. But one of the reasons that I am doing this at such a basic and detailed level is for all those brand-new motorcycle riders who have just joined our sport and can use all the help they can get. This is my way of helping pay back all those peeps on KTMTalk.com who helped me out when I first started riding KTMs and Husabergs back in 2002.


Here's the thread: "2012 350 EXC-F: Building the Perfect "Wee Beasty"

http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=440785&st=0


I wanted to re-load it onto Adventure Rider.
But the dang thing is now up to 60 pages ...
I might do it one of these days when I get caught up (... ...) but until then ...

Here are some "teaser" pics:


Here's the final pilo 'o emissions stuff. Hoo-boy! Total weight savings: 1.42 lbs !!




Man ... everything is so much cleaner and accessible now!!
{.... insert big, happy sigh here....}






















BTW, I try to keep an updated Index Page on the last page of the thread if you get lost and need help navigating.
And I hope no one thinks I am trying to spam this thread! Just trying to help out fellow 350 owners.

I finally gave in an created the Index Page around page 40.
Because I was starting to go nuts as well trying to find things!
And I was supposed to know where they were!


Cheers! E-Ticket

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Wee Beasty Page Index: Updated 2/14/2013


Here are the page-links to the "starting points" for the listed topics.
The topics may run for several pages or be a single entry.

NOTE: It is not an exhaustive list of everything covered.
The page index is simply to make it easier to find the starting point for a given topic. Which may then run on for several pages.

I'll continue to update the index as more material, posts, and tips get posted.

Cheers! E-Ticket
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Page 1
• Prepping/greasing new wheels, axles, and wheel spacers
• Installing KTM Organic brake pads on the rear brake
• Using heat gun to move the end of a graphic "a little"
• Turning KTM "self-retracting" kickstand into a normal kickstand
• Installing footpeg springs
• Removing gas tank and initial internal inspection
• Pics of engine area (w/ gas tank removed), emissions equipment, and below seat
• Pics of air box, filter, and internal view of intake manifold
• Installing Shorai battery
Page 2
• Routing and zip-tying various wires above air filter
• Anti-seize on seat bolt; using duct tape to keep bolt clean
• Installing KTM, quick-release, plastic skid plate
Page 6
• Initial start-up of engine and engine break-in procedure
• First engine oil change; cleaning filter screens and drain plug
Page 7
• Pulling and draining fuel tank; remove fuel pump and wiring assembly; cleaning fuel tank,
pics of fuel pump; reassembly of fuel tank
Page 11
• Installing the 10 micron Golan "Super Mini" filter
• Removing the KTM, black, 10 micron, in-line fuel filter
• Final Golan filter setup tips
Page 12
• Installing the KTM "sock filter" in the neck of the gas tank
Page 13
• Installing the Akropovic slip-on exhaust and 92db spark-arrestor insert
Page 14
• Removing the ECU; remapping the ECU
• Testing de-smogify steps; actual de-smogify procedure
Page 15
• Relocating horn to location near swingarm
Page 17
• The "beginning" of the starting capacitor discussion (it runs for several pages)
Page 20
• Starting discussion point on adjusting valves
• Actual step-by-step procedure for checking and adjusting the valves

>>>> 2012 KTM 350 EXC-F: Check/Adj valve clearances, "Building the Perfect Wee Beasty"

• Preparing cooling system for change-over to Engine Ice coolant
Page 21
• Installing KTM radiator fan and Engine Ice coolant
• Installing lower-temperature rated sensor in radiator
• Installing Bulletprood Design (BPD) radiator guards
• Installing heat shield on gas tank (behind radiator fan)
Page 31
• Initial comments on suspension spring selection
• Discussion on installing the DJH Manual Cam Chain Tensioner (CCT)
• Step-by-step procedure for installing the DJH Manual Cam Chain Tensioner (CCT)

>>>> '12 KTM 350 EXC-F: Installing a DJH Manual CCT
Page 32

• More Akropovc pics
• Installing the P3 Exhaust Shield on header pipe
Page 33
• Changing gearing to 13-52T
• Upgrading to Dirt Tricks' "Ironman" sprockets
• Installing TM Design Chain Guide
• Installing the Bulletproof Design Guard for chain guide
Page 36
• Excellent pictures of 2013 quick-disconnect w/ 20 micron filter (thanks blackwidow!)
Page 39
• Using 9v battery to allow kick-starting a 350 that has a dead battery (thanks, daju!)
Page 41
• Modifying the brake pedal (to reduce clutch cover damage)
• Installing KTM HardParts Carbon Fiber (CF) clutch Cover Guard
• Installing the KTM HardParts Billet Oil-Fill Plug
Page 42
• Swingarm clean up and greasing / Heim joint protection
• Mounting the Bulletproof Designs guard for the rear brake rotor
• Installing the KTM HardPart Clutch Slave-Cylinder Guard and Dirt Tricks 13T Countershaft Sprocket
Page 43
• Installing the Side Frame-Guard Protectors
• Installing DID "X-Ring" 520 VT2 Chain (for 13-52T gearing)
Page 44
• Tightening the Countershaft Sprocket Bolt
• Aligning the Chain (align rear axle to parallel w/ swingarm pivot bolt)
• Setting the Chain Slack (with swingarm "level"/full tight)
• Marking the chain adjuster bolts for easy adjusting (<<< BIG TIP!!)
• Replacing Spring on Shock (from stock to PDS-4) and setting initial preload
Page 45
• Installing the SAR Flush-Mount LED Turn Signals on the "Stock" Rear Fender
Page 46
• Installing the 2012 350 XCF-W Rear Sub-Fender on the 2012 350 EXC-F
• Mounting the SAR Flush-Mount, LED Turn Signals on the 2012 350 XCF-W Sub-Fender. (More on Page 47 as well.)
• Mounting the License Plate on the 2012 350 XCF-W Sub-Fender
• Installing the "Troy" Rear Tugger Strap
Page 47
• Installing the Front, Sicass Racing (SAR) LED Turn Signals
• Installing the SAR LED-Compatible Flasher Unit. (Needed if you run LED turn signals at both front and rear.)
Page 48
• Why Mount a Scott's Steering Stabilizer and Sub-Mount?
• What Comes in Scott's Steering Stabilizer and Sub-Mount Kit
• Removing the Forks and Triple Clamp
• Installing the Clamp-on Tower for the Scott's Steering Stabilizer
• Reassembling and Torquing the Triple Clamps
• Setting the Height of the SSS Tower Pin
• Check for Clearance Issues on the Scott's Steering Stabilizer
"Low-Profile" Bolt for the Triple Clamp Pinch Bolt

Page 49
• Fastway / Pro-Moto Billet Handguards ... and big foam rubber, flappy, handguard shields
• CEV Replacement Headlight / Turn Signal /Horn Switch
• Removing the Forks and Triple Clamp
• Malcom Smith Racing (MSR) Folding Mirror
• KTM HardParts Fork Bleeders
• Considering Moving the Ignition Switch ......
• Backup Ignition Key
"AYHIN" Front Tugger Strap
Page 51
CORRECTION on type of Honda brand/Loc-Tite type used on Wee Beasty
Page 54
• Dunlop D803 trials tire rubbing on mud flap


Cheers! E-Ticket
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Old 03-25-2013, 01:38 PM   #20
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Here's the thread: "2012 350 EXC-F: Building the Perfect "Wee Beasty"

http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=440785&st=0
Man...that seems like a great thread to read but without a login to KTMTalk, its a no go.
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Old 03-25-2013, 06:29 PM   #21
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Man...that seems like a great thread to read but without a login to KTMTalk, its a no go.
It is.

BTW, KTMTalk.com is a free site ... there is no charge.
You simply register, supply a screen name and valid email address, and you're in like Flynn. It takes less than 5 min.
Here's the registration page if you're interested.

http://ktmtalk.com/index.php?act=Reg&CODE=00

O-r-r-r ... if you're really reluctant to sign up ... you can read the "Jr." version of the Wee Beasty thread on the OMRA web site.
It's p-r-e-t-t-y much the same content. But it has much fewer pages because there is hardly any added tips-n-tricks-n-mods from other 350 owners.

It's located here: http://www.omraoffroad.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=11373

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Old 03-27-2013, 05:57 AM   #22
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I just bought a 2012 350 EXC-F, and I have to say, it is quite a beast compared to other dirt bikes I have owned. Right now, I just popped on a 13t counter shaft sprocket (13/45), but it still needs lower gearing. With the 13/45 combo the axle will be almost all the way back in the swing arm slots, and the bike will cruise comfortably at 60-65 MPH. I have read that 13/48 will fit with the stock chain, but any larger than that (rear sprocket) will require a longer chain. The XCF comes with 13/52 gearing, and many people shoot for that, but I will probably try 13/48 first as I ride a bit of road to get around from trail to trail. My dealer (a NETRA "A" Vet rider) recommended 13/50.
I brought home a KTM skid plate with the bike.
I still need real hand guards, and i have found that most of them (Cycra, EE, HDB included) really do not look right with the angular body work. I will probably buy the OEM Cycra set.
This bike is flat out amazing! The throttle response is bordering on too aggressive. The motor does not like to lug down like an XR or a DR. It wants to, and needs to rev.
So far, from what I have read, the 350's have proven to be very reliable, as long as you check (and adjust, as necessary) your valve clearances after the first hour or so.
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Old 03-27-2013, 07:39 AM   #23
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I just finished getting my '13 350 ready to go. I added Highway Dirt Bikes hand guards with fold out mirrors, top clamp, computer re-locater and under bar damper mount. The HDB top clamp also gave me a spot to put a switch for heated grips and a RAM ball for GPS mounting. I left my countershaft sprocket at 14 teeth, and swapped the rear out for an Ironman 50 tooth part. This did require using a longer chain. The evap. canister and associated plumbing fell off spontaneously, and the SAS tube has been plugged. My dealer is going to re-map the ECU to XC-W specs when I take it in for it's first inspection/service.



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Old 03-27-2013, 08:25 AM   #24
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ooo-o-o-o-h ... very nicely done, sir.
Pretty looking scoot!

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Howdy all!

And yes, the 350 EXC-F simply rocks.

Back in November of 2011, I got one of the first 2012 KTM 350 EXC-F's in Oregon (USA). Having some time on my hands, I decided to "start from the beginning" and "do it up right."

Hey E-Ticket, I've read through your guide preeeetty extensively over the past few months since I decided to buy a 2013 350 EXC-F. Without a doubt it's one of the best, if not THE best, guides on the 'net for working on a new EXC-F.

However, I recall reading that the whole emissions system in the 2013 models were changed to be more of a pain in the ass to mess around with [thanks a lot, idiot environmentalists]. Do you know if your guide still applies to the 2013 models in terms of emissions system?
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Hey E-Ticket, I've read through your guide preeeetty extensively over the past few months since I decided to buy a 2013 350 EXC-F. Without a doubt it's one of the best, if not THE best, guides on the 'net for working on a new EXC-F.

However, I recall reading that the whole emissions system in the 2013 models were changed to be more of a pain in the ass to mess around with [thanks a lot, idiot environmentalists]. Do you know if your guide still applies to the 2013 models in terms of emissions system?
Hmmmm ... it *should.*

I haven't heard of any real changes emissions-wise from the '12 to the '13 models.
If there is a change, it's probably limited to having a slight different FI mapping installed.
I can't see them making any real changes to the emissions hardware and plumbing.

But that being said .... your mileage may vary (YMMV)!

Now that I think about it -- you might also want to ask that question on the Wee Beasty thread on KTMTalk.
There are quite a few 2013 model owners following that thread -- and they would be in a better position to know than me.

Cheers! E-Ticket
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Hmmmm ... it *should.*

I haven't heard of any real changes emissions-wise from the '12 to the '13 models.
If there is a change, it's probably limited to having a slight different FI mapping installed.
I can't see them making any real changes to the emissions hardware and plumbing.

But that being said .... your mileage may vary (YMMV)!

Now that I think about it -- you might also want to ask that question on the Wee Beasty thread on KTMTalk.
There are quite a few 2013 model owners following that thread -- and they would be in a better position to know than me.

Cheers! E-Ticket
Good call. As it turned out, my dealer was kind enough to desmog the bike right off the showroom floor, and remap it with an XC-W map. Just picked it up Saturday morning, she purrs like a kitten! :)

Your mega-guide has been enormously helpful though. Much obliged sir.

Here's a pic from the weekend:

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Looks good, sir!

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Old 07-24-2013, 01:25 PM   #29
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Yahoo! Rebates on non-current models got my cheap ass in a 350!

She's a beauty...and of course I am now on road for work for a few weeks. Will tackle some of the above projects over the winter.

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