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Old 04-02-2013, 01:35 AM   #196
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Can you give a little more details about the suspension mods? There are quite a few 690 riders who would like to upgrade the short travel suspension as it comes from the factory. This kit alone for a naked enduro sounds like an excellent upgrade.

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Hi Sparrow' - John (KTMmitch) is your man in the suspension department... I'm sure he will be along soon to discuss the options and recommendations...

In the meantime, I believe there are two ways - one is to simply replace the fork legs with EXC equivalents, the other is to increase travel internally, as I understand the R model forks actually have the same length stanchions, just with a shorter spring and damper stack. However, I think things are further complicated for 2013 model year onwards, as the fork offset has been changed at the triple clamp (to improve steering angle), and the fork bottoms correspondingly altered to retain the original trail dimentions...

As I say, Guru John will explain in more detail shortly I'm sure...

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Old 04-08-2013, 02:21 PM   #197
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:50 AM   #198
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Well, did it go bang ?
Ho ho!

To be honest, it would be nice if it made any noise at all! - At the moment things are 'slightly delayed' on the engine front, but hopefully we'll have something together soon...

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Old 04-19-2013, 02:14 PM   #199
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In the meantime... I finally got my WR450 back together (it's been running for a while now already, I just had to fit a new drive chain) and actually rode it again this evening for the first time since my crash in January 2011... that's over 27 months ago now!!! Doesn't time fly?!



I am still waiting for a few fuel hose fittings to arrive before I can plumb in all the tanks, but I have to say it looks fantastic with the new (design) fairing and twin LED headlights fitted:



More (finished) photos to follow in the daylight!

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Old 04-19-2013, 05:20 PM   #200
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Patiently awaiting the action shots! Congrats on being back in the saddle.
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Old 04-20-2013, 01:04 AM   #201
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Good to see the Yam is mended, JMo. Must be one of the last carbed models tooled up to rallye spec. Are you hocking it to cover your KTM development?
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Old 04-21-2013, 01:20 AM   #202
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Good to see the Yam is mended, JMo. Must be one of the last carbed models tooled up to rallye spec. Are you hocking it to cover your KTM development?
Hi Dan! - not so much to cover the development of the KTM (thank fully that is Rally Raid & Torque Racing who are doing that)... but in a somewhat ironic catch-22 situation, it looks like I will have to sell my own Dakar bike, just so I can afford to enter the Dakar!

Hence why I'm banking on the LC4-50 project working out you see!

"Once careful owner, never raced or rallied..." erm.



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Old 04-22-2013, 05:55 AM   #203
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A few photos from my first proper test-ride since the rebuild...









I did about 50 or 60 miles yesterday (currently only the centre 5L 'reserve' tank is plumbed in) including a good blast across the top of Salisbury Plain and a couple of other 'suitable' trails where I could open the throttle a little...

I have to say I'd forgotten quite how AWESOME this bike is! It can be scary fast if you want it to be, and at the same time Martin (at Torque Racing) has done a fantastic job servicing the forks - it felt so planted on loose gravel and rough pot-holed tracks...

I might have to refit all my nav gear and get this enter it in a rally or two before I HAVE to sell it...

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Old 04-22-2013, 10:15 AM   #204
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Thumb Admiring your tenacity

Congratulations Jen, as a follower of your previous effort I must applaud your change to orange. However, I'm also compelled to comment on the things you're not changing.

Same dogged determination to see it all through in spite of the cost and risk.

Same attention to detail from engine development by Cosworth to following up on every post in your thread.

Same insistence on being different and unique. Even with a conventional color (brand) choice you came up with a completely off the wall approach.

All in all, I'd say very innovative. This effort seems to be far broader in it's approach than your first, which seemed to be quite the learning experience. I suspect the resulting education at the university of hard knocks had something to do with this revised approach? Let us know when you'll be coming to Colorado, I'd like to tag along on one of the fund raising rides as I'm sure many others here would as well. Subscribed (again)...
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:48 AM   #205
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Thanks for your kind words GoThere!

They say half the battle is getting to the start... certainly the way we are doing is a very long and winding road!

It is the UK leg of the 'Dakar Tour' tomorrow, and I am looking forward to catching up with a few old faces, plus talk in person to the technical department about our project...

In the meantime, I've been tweaking the www.Jennydakar.com website with some more info, added links to a couple of new team sponsors, and not least updated the latest route information for the 2014 event - enjoy!

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Oooo, look!! Dakar 2014 registration is now open! http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2014/us/register.html
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:50 AM   #207
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Oooo, look!! Dakar 2014 registration is now open! http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2014/us/register.html
Yep! We are just waiting on the FIM to approve our [engine] modifications, then the fun really begins!

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Yep! We are just waiting on the FIM to approve our [engine] modifications, then the fun really begins!

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Old 05-16-2013, 04:27 PM   #209
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Yep! We are just waiting on the FIM to approve our [engine] modifications, then the fun really begins!

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JMo,

So where are you in the actual development cycle? I think the last we heard was pre-Tuareg when the engine was just going together? Any news? Should I start the search for a KTM 690 Enduro?
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Old 05-17-2013, 12:41 AM   #210
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So where are you in the actual development cycle? I think the last we heard was pre-Tuareg when the engine was just going together? Any news? Should I start the search for a KTM 690 Enduro?
Hi Brimstone! - I'm sure you're not the only one wondering this, hell I'm wondering myself!

Typically things have taken a lot longer than we first imagined - not so much the physical development, but a series of other commitments (for John at Rally Raid in particular) over the past couple of months mean things have not progressed as far as we'd hoped.

The good news is we have a bike, and an engine sitting on the bench and a crank and rod assembled.

John has also CAD designed the shape of the piston we are confident will produce the correct compression for the prototype engine - Cosworth have also modeled this on our behalf, but that will be for the production spec pistons.

John and Martin (from Torque Racing) are currently in Malta for a week preparing a pair of 690cc Rallye bikes with the EVO2 kit for a couple of guys who raced the Heroes-Legend last year, and will be racing the new kits at the Transanatolia Rally in September. Once John and Martin are back, work will resume on the LC4-50...

However, one element we had not fully considered at the inception of the project was the fact that while a KTM 690 is an FIM homologated machine for the 450+cc Open Class, it is not homologated as a 450cc production machine of course.

Now we all know (and the FIM agree) that it really is just a case of a capacity change to comply with the ASO/Dakar (and FIM Cross Country Championship rules, which the ASO use) - the original production bike itself - frame, swingarm, engine cases etc are all exactly the same...

However, rules is rules - and if it still says KTM690 on the homologation papers, the ASO scrutineers are at liberty to exclude it as it doesn't comply with their rules - that it must be based on a single cylinder production machine, of 450cc capacity or less - even though ours is a single cylinder production machine, and we can prove (and they can test at the time) the capacity has been reduced to 449cc... the problem is that it wasn't originally built as a 450 from the manufacturer.

The alternative is to rename the bike to avoid any confusion, and effectively create a new model... however, we then are faced with the situation that the bike is not homologated at all! Obviously we are in no position to go into full scale production of this bike, and produce 100* examples required for homologation - never mind the associated costs of FIM homologation itself.

*Note in my discussions with the FIM, they are considering lowering this number to perhaps 75 or less, but still it is not applicable to our project - while we intend to build maybe 3 or 4 examples this year at most - a couple for testing and the pair of Dakar bikes.

So we are in effect in limbo at the moment - the ASO have agreed to allow us to enter a reduced capacity 690, as long as it complies (or at least is approved by) the FIM homologation department.

Our situation has been fully explained to the FIM homologation department, and we are waiting for a reply from the Commission as to whether they will approve (not fully homologate it must be clear) this bike for the 450cc production class.

While there is no physical reason not to allow this bike, they are concerned about setting a precedent in a class that currently has no facility for 'prototypes' to be included.

One might argue that surely this would actually encourage engine development from other manufacturers - a larger oil capacity/longer service interval 450cc engine with a broad spread of gears is the golden goose here on ADVrider - and you'd think in this austere times of rising fuel prices and evermore stringent emissions controls, that development of such would be a priority for the dual-sport/adventure travel market?

However, the reality of course is that the the dual-sport adventure market is still very small in comparison to the big 1000+cc behemoths, never mind the street bikes, cruisers and MX machines; and that ultimately racing (at the manufacturer sharp end at least) is all about who's fastest, and makes the most power...

So we wait. For a while longer at least.

Jx

ps. Even if the decision is not returned in our favor, John does still intend to build the prototype engine - just because he likes a challenge and is bloody minded enough to do it! As his quote on the Jennydakar.com website says: "To try is not to fail..."

However should that be the outcome, where that leaves my personal Dakar campaign is a story for a whole other thread perhaps...

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