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Old 04-03-2013, 09:52 PM   #121
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Cotter Pin?

No Max, as explained to Railbender, I have'nt measured the chain. I don't have a micrometer, and I doubt if I could reliaby extrapolate from a ruler a correct length. I'm just waiting to see what Suzuki, Ek, and Regina say. My supposition is that the Regina was the correct length, and that the EK and DID were not.

As to your half-link and cotterpin - I would really like to see a picture of that ...

Thanks for your insight.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:59 PM   #122
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Old 04-03-2013, 10:10 PM   #123
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No Max, as explained to Railbender, I have'nt measured the chain. I don't have a micrometer, and I doubt if I could reliaby extrapolate from a ruler a correct length.

You measure with a ruler, not a micrometer. You don't just measure one link. You measure the 20-pitch length, which is the length between 21 pins.
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Old 04-04-2013, 12:17 AM   #124
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Old 04-05-2013, 04:16 PM   #125
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The OP is looking at half the length of the adjustment range over the length of the swing arm, ...

So let us say 1/2" over 24" ... you could do that with a tape measure!

Never mind a micrometer en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micrometer or a vernier caliper...

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Old 04-16-2013, 08:13 AM   #126
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9 pages of comments and no ending? WTF Inquiring minds want to know! Tell us notrivia what did the chain companies say? Where are the adjusters on new bikes?
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:27 AM   #127
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It's not uncommon for people up against major companies and their conspiracies to just disappear or be silenced. He probably sold out.
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Old 04-16-2013, 08:45 AM   #128
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It's not uncommon for people up against major companies and their conspiracies to just disappear or be silenced. He probably sold out.

For a new, slightly shorter chain?
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Old 04-16-2013, 09:11 AM   #129
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His last post was on the 8th, I am rather concerned about his safety.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:28 AM   #130
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Old 08-05-2013, 04:41 AM   #131
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No Max, as explained to Railbender, I have'nt measured the chain. I don't have a micrometer, and I doubt if I could reliaby extrapolate from a ruler a correct length. I'm just waiting to see what Suzuki, Ek, and Regina say. My supposition is that the Regina was the correct length, and that the EK and DID were not.

As to your half-link and cotterpin - I would really like to see a picture of that ...

Thanks for your insight.

It's been 4 months now. Curious as to what you have determined????


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Old 08-05-2013, 05:42 AM   #132
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well i do have a tape measure but also...

a brain. if the links of the chain were an improper length pin-to-pin they would not fit the sprockets. if the sprockets were made with large valleys between teeth they wouldn't fit the chain. making a longer chain link to fit a new sprocket tooth profile would COST the manufacturers $ in R&D and cause a host of issues with non-interchangeable parts from one to another. If there's any discrepancy in link sizing it falls either within a tolerance of manufacturer's specs which would fluctuate from one to another, or it falls outside what will fit and people will return them. All of which costs the manufacturer money. I work with tolerances and maximizing profits through "stacking" tolerances all the time. It's not a scheme, it's business and you're crazy if you think new covert specifications have been implemented in 520 chain manufacturing to save steel. It would be a lose-lose.
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Old 08-05-2013, 05:53 AM   #133
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Well Max, everything is strictly stock. I've found in 60,000 miles on my Sv and more than a million on my other bikes that the standard size and manufacture's
sprockets give the best mileage and power charecteristic's.

Victor 441 - Thankyou for your info and the wikipedia article. But it seems to me that the Chain makers are not being fair as my chain with the standard links should be at the begining of adjustment, not half-way through.

I used to ride a Victor 441. My hands tingle and my right ankle hurts every time I think of it. Probably the premier motorcycle for developing mechanical skills. I went for A CL450 instead ...
So the one thing you are not thinking about is the bikes axle to axle wheelbase. The mfgr wants that set to a certain dimension for best handling characteristics. Most bike's adjustment on the swingarm/axle slot ends up in the middle. It is up to you to change that if you want to.
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Old 08-05-2013, 06:41 AM   #134
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It's been 4 months now. Curious as to what you have determined????



He still hasnt posted since 4/8 I fear for his safety
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