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Old 04-18-2013, 03:56 AM   #28156
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spitting hairs here, if the ignorant ass in the car doesn't see you on a recumbent, he's not gonna see you whatever your on, he's oblivious to the world, and would mow you over if you were on a Goldwing wearing flashing neon outfits with flags waving all over the place.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:50 AM   #28157
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That's a pretty tall recumbent. The three wheeled variety I see around here place the rider's butt just inches above the ground. You also have to keep in mind that the main advantage of having your eyes as high as possible isn't that drivers will be able to see you, but that you'll be able to see over tops of the cars around you to avoid potential danger.
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Old 04-18-2013, 06:30 AM   #28158
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that road is a good example of some of the reasons i choose to live here.
kinda' like Patron is to tequilas, Page Mill Road's not the best by a far cry, but a good stable benchmark, and nice to have in the backyard.


The bottom of Moody is maybe 5 miles from my front door, and roads like that were high on my list of reasons to relocate here. Good times.
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:32 AM   #28159
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spitting hairs here, if the ignorant ass in the car doesn't see you on a recumbent, he's not gonna see you whatever your on, he's oblivious to the world, and would mow you over if you were on a Goldwing wearing flashing neon outfits with flags waving all over the place.


We had a car hit a school bus here last week. A freakin' school bus. What chance does a cyclist or motorcyclist have these days?
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Old 04-18-2013, 08:38 AM   #28160
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Cars hit trains too. And if they survive the driver usually says they didn't see it.


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We had a car hit a school bus here last week. A freakin' school bus. What chance does a cyclist or motorcyclist have these days?
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Old 04-18-2013, 11:33 AM   #28161
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Cars hit trains too. And if they survive the driver usually says they didn't see it.
I've had buddies that were driving fire trucks say that regardless of lights, sirens, etc cars don't see them either.



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Old 04-18-2013, 11:41 AM   #28162
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wtf?!

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Old 04-18-2013, 11:48 AM   #28163
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I have a second cousin who was a fireman and the truck he was driving head-oned a car as they both turned a corner for a fire.
The car was a cop car.

Driven by his brother.

Small town...


Fire turned out was a small grease fire on a stove and was out before they got there.

Fireman was on the back of the hook and ladder truck went over the truck, bounced off the car, broke a hip and ribs.
Policeman broke stuff on the car, pre-airbags, late fifties.
Walked a beat checking meters for a couple of years.

I have been grazed by big trucks, cars, and motorcycles.
Pushed off the road once by a lowboy with a huge cat on it and the blade overhanging about 6 feet probably less. I took to the ditch and didn't fall or hit cactus. (Old Morrison Road in Colorado).
No cars coming the other way or they would have been in the other ditch. I called the cops when I got home about a mile and a half later. Noting was done.
Heck I had two OC sherrifs on BMW RTP's nearly run me off the bike path along the river a year or so ago. They were riding side by side up the path at about 30 and I was headed inland at about 18.
Yes, I swore at them and yelled. They didn't stop.
I considered calling it in, and just gave up.
I'd rather have them there as we get a few bandits along parts.

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I've had buddies that were driving fire trucks say that regardless of lights, sirens, etc cars don't see them either.



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Old 04-18-2013, 12:12 PM   #28164
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If you follow the 'buy straw hats in the winter' style of buying, keep an eye on www.gearscan.com. I just got some Castelli bib knickers for over half off. No, I don't need em right now, but sure as shootin they're NOT going to be on sale when I do!

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Old 04-18-2013, 01:13 PM   #28165
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You know after reading that the guy on the bike did decide to let the dog and its owners manage his safety.
The river trail bike path I use quite often has lots of everybody.

I've had to avoid squirrels, dogs, ducks geese turtles and one un-identified large fourlegged mammal in the dark/dusk/dawn. Along with waddling tipsy walkers/stumblers, runners, fallers, cops on bikes, motorcycles, horses and cars.
One fire truck. Guy hit a telephone pole that is right at the apex of a curve and only about 18-inches in diameter. Nice direct full speed hit. So much for riding a bicycle like you operate an SUV.

No airbag.
My favorites are the bouncing dogs on those reel leashes, let out in toll mode.
We call this trolling here in the OC, because there are things out there in the brush that will eat a dog. And those things are not homeless this is in fact their home. several people lose dogs this way ignoring the 5-6 foot leash rules posted and explaining how that skin and bones coyote will easily eat your big tough terrier/whatever.

What I have had to avoid the most are dog walkers/runners with the reel leashes who tend to let out a little more than ten fifteen feet of line; I suppose that keeps the bait from under foot.
sometimes they reel in when they happen to notice other people in their world. Sometimes not. When faced with a dog on a long leash, I slow down move to the side of the path and sometimes stop well ahead of the meeting point. This also gives me time to get some of that plastic bike between me and the bait, just in case the bait is not happy about others in his world.
Yes, this can put a bind on my Strava time, but I can always ride it again another day. And it saves a face plant. I'm old and have actually learned a few things over the years. One of those is that it is far easier to avoid this sort of thing than to attempt to sort it all out after. And more importantly I hjave figured out that at my advanced age, I no longer bounce so good.
I've checked. Nope still not that great at bouncing, (checked last weekend but that was beach sand so more of a dead-blow than any chance at bouncing..)

Still how a court can decide a dogs owners clearly not in control of the dog are somehow not responsible for any damage the uncontrolled dog may cause is a bit much. So if the uncontrolled dog jumps on the hood of certain appellate court judges car and scratches the hell out of it the owners are not responsible.
It's on the judge to fix the hood of his Ferrari.
I think I see a judge that needs a boot in the ass from the common sense side of the aisle.

I'm surprised the courts decision didn't read: "Dude the dog was just doing what dogs do man."

the dog abides.

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Old 04-18-2013, 02:03 PM   #28166
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"Neither side disputes that 46-year-old Wolfgang Doerr was biking in the loop when Julie Smith began slapping her thighs and calling for her shepherd mix, Lena, who was being held by Smith's boyfriend. Sensing that the dog was going to bolt out in front of him, Doerr yelled "Watch your dog!" to no avail. Lena suffered only a few bruises, but Doerr broke his jaw and several teeth."

I started twitching a little when the bicyclist admitted that he saw the dog and was concerned. If that were me, I'd be covering the brakes already and prepping for the worst case scenario.

Riding a motorcycle and cycling teaches you that very early on.

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Old 04-18-2013, 05:15 PM   #28167
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Since switching to gravel, I no longer have that problem.
gravel is good.
Pandale to Langtry and back from Horseshack on Vimeo.
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:24 PM   #28168
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Managed to find the hole in my Tufo. Nope. Not fixable. There goes $50

...and if that's auto-running, you may want to link to it. Otherwise people'll get their panties in a wad. I've got script blockers going so I can't tell.

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Old 04-18-2013, 05:38 PM   #28169
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Riding a motorcycle and cycling teaches you that very early on.
After riding a motorcycle for several years, bike commuting didn't intimidate me much. Not being able to outrun cars kinda sucked, but keeping my eyes moving and looking for cars/obstacles was pretty natural.

Riding with my wife has presented a problem though, as she can't look around to say live her life (and that could be literal one of these days! )
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Old 04-19-2013, 07:07 AM   #28170
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Nope, no auto-play. Nice vid, looks like a good ride.

I'm getting set for the Honey Badger on Sunday. I put new tires (Clement LAS) on the cross bike yesterday. The Small Block Eights were still useable, but I've had to patch sidewall cuts on both. No SAG on this ride, not gonna tempt fate. No SAG also means I'll be strapping on the Revelate Tangle frame bag to carry victuals, clothing, etc. (Wonder if I can stuff an extra pair of legs in there... )
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