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Old 04-02-2013, 06:02 PM   #676
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Let's keep the politics out of this thread and forum... take it to CSM.

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Old 04-03-2013, 08:10 AM   #677
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The Rainbow family is a good group of people,alternative ideas are hard for many to grasp,work for possessions or freedom that's everyone's choice,and Feyala I prefer your choice,you and OZ should melt right into the Rainbow community.Relax,partake,and enjoy!!
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Old 04-08-2013, 03:34 AM   #678
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Hi Fey,

Sorry I only found this now, but thanks for getting me through tedious night shifts. I've enjoyed every page of this RR, you're doing a phenomenal job here. Well done.

Looking forward to the rest of it.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:14 AM   #679
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Originally Posted by GB View Post
Let's keep the politics out of this thread and forum... take it to CSM.

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Politics are divisive. Maybe if there is ever an update to the format you could add a "like-dislike" button and that might be enough to keep the politics.

Anyhow, this is a good RR and a excellent site-thanks all! And it was heart warming to read the response from the guy from Mississippi offering to help with the potentially life threatening tooth problem.
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:24 PM   #680
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Hey Fey, It was great to meet you and Oz !!! You both are great and I had lots of fun talking to you both. Thanks!!

I can't wait to hear more from the road! After reading about to page 20 I have to second the notion of you writing a couple of free-lance articles. I have enjoyed your company, your conversations, humor, and now your writing!! Keep in touch !!

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Old 04-22-2013, 07:40 PM   #681
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What a long, strange road...

I find myself in rural Illinois. On the plus side, there's not much out here to do other than get the ride report up to date, and I finally feel like I can just relax for a bit without worrying about being chased off, overstaying my welcome, or finding a place to sleep. On the minus side, I'm in rural Illinois...

Oz ran out of money and so he is seeking work in Flora. I still have a little pile of funds left, so I'm not in much of a rush, and most of the jobs here are factory work anyways. We're staying with a friend of mine who is renting a house here in Cisne for $350 a month. I've literally rented a 4x10' closet for that much before. Crazy.

It's been a bit of a culture shock, but so far nobody's come at me with torches and pitchforks so it's all good.

Oz didn't end up getting his tooth fixed, but I'll get to that part of the story in time - his tooth stopped hurting though, so that much is a blessing. It's also gotten to be too hot for me to want to go to Florida, so when I leave here I might be going northwest-ish, heading for the Hells Canyon rally. Maybe the national Rainbow Gathering, maybe Alaska, maybe just bum around in the northwest, I don't really have much in the way of plans currently.

I'll probably be here another couple of weeks to a month getting my business in order. I need to renew my registration, get new tires, and some other tedious stuff which is more challenging without a fixed address. Most importantly, the RR is hilariously outdated and this is one of my top priorities.

Hope you all have been doing well, and look for updates in the near future!
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Old 04-22-2013, 07:58 PM   #682
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Good to see you back,keep chasin the Rainbows,lotsa events in the summer.Post when you can so those of us who can't bail and cruise can live through you and the others such as yourself.Partake and enjoy fellow person of the earth.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:02 PM   #683
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Originally Posted by Badger View Post
Hey Fey, It was great to meet you and Oz !!! You both are great and I had lots of fun talking to you both. Thanks!!

I can't wait to hear more from the road! After reading about to page 20 I have to second the notion of you writing a couple of free-lance articles. I have enjoyed your company, your conversations, humor, and now your writing!! Keep in touch !!
Hey, it was great to meet you too! Thanks again for putting us up! We talked for, what was it, a day and a half? Time well spent!

Sorry for setting your dog off, I'm sure your wife was happy when we left so she could finally get some sleep!
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:14 PM   #684
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I'm not sure how far you are from Edwardsville, Ill. I have friends that have received cheap dental care from SIU Edwardsville dental school.
I don't know what the process was for them to get this care.
They seemed happy with the care though. Maybe Oz could check it out.

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Old 04-25-2013, 11:16 AM   #685
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Manzanar (Nov 3rd)

It was quite chilly on this side of the mountains, unlike Saline Valley, and I hadn't slept very well. Oh well! I quickly broke camp and began my day.

After stopping to air up my tires, I continued south on the 395, slowly warming up in the sunshine. I decided to take a journey through a period in history I wasn't really that familiar with: WWII Japanese internment. In my history classes, it was only ever mentioned briefly, almost as a sidenote.

Welcome to Manzanar!

As I entered the auditorium which the National Park Service had converted into a free interpretive center, this sign summed up the story.

"In 1942, the United States government ordered over 110,000 men, women, and children to leave their homes and detained them in remote, military-style camps. Two-thirds of them were born in America. Not one was convicted of espionage or sabotage. For 10,000 of them, Manzanar would be their new home."

Past the gift shop, the first exhibit was quite shocking, laying bare the sentiments which led these events to unfold. After the Japanese strike on Pearl Harbor, xenophobia and racism towards the Japanese were at a breaking point.

"Herd 'em up, pack 'em off and give 'em the inside room in the badlands. Let 'em be pinched, hurt, hungry and dead up against it... Personally, I hate the Japanese. And that goes for all of them."

"Let Them Howl. If making 1,000,000 innocent Japanese uncomfortable would prevent one scheming Japanese from costing the life of an American boy, then let 1,000,000 innocents suffer."

There was a public call for action. People felt that the Japanese represented a threat to national security. I'm not quite sure what I expected to find here at Manzanar, but it pulled no punches in its portrayal of the brutally toxic atmosphere that gave birth to Executive Order 9066, requiring all "persons of Japanese ancestry" to report for relocation.

Canada and Latin America were not spared this tragedy.

"Under pressure from the US, sixteen Latin American countries interned 8,500 residents of German, Italian, and Japanese descent. Over 3,000 others were deported to the US, where they were to be exchanged for US citizens held as prisoners-of-war. The deportees' passports were confiscated and, upon arriving in the US, they were declared illegal immigrants and placed in Department of Justice camps in Texas. The majority of deportees of Japanese ancestry were eventually sent to Japan either as part of the exchange program or as repatriates after the war."

Later I discovered that unlike the Japanese, the Germans and Italians who were placed in internment camps have never received a federal apology or reparations. I found this interesting, because their incarceration hasn't been highly publicized, almost as though we've forgotten about it.

The stories told by Manzanar were heartbreaking. The detainees were given only a few days to prepare. They had to dispose of everything they owned, including their homes and businesses, often at fire sale prices others knew they had to sell. They could bring with them only what they could carry, and nobody knew when they would be allowed to return. If they were lucky, they had non-Japanese friends who could manage their affairs while they were gone. Most ended up losing what livelihoods they had managed to scratch out of their new home country, some too elderly to start anew. Many buried or destroyed treasured possessions instead of selling them for a pittance.

They were herded onto trucks and trains, under armed guard, and dispersed to the barren wastelands of the western states. There they were crammed into hastily-constructed barracks, which they had to share with other families. They strung bedsheets from the ceiling as room dividers, in an attempt to create an illusion of privacy.

"Manzanar's wood and tarpaper barracks were no match for Owens Valley's wind, dust, and extreme temperatures. Congressman Leland Ford, visiting Manzanar in 1942, remarked, 'On dusty days one might as well be outside.' In addition to dealing with crowded conditions and a lack of privacy, internees also had to make do with the few belongings they brought with them. As Yuri Tateishi recalled, 'What hurt most I think was seeing those hay mattresses... It was depressing, such a primitive feeling. We were given army blankets and army cots. Our family was large enough that we didn't have to share our barrack with another family, but all seven of us were in one room.'"

The lack of privacy did not stop at the barracks, even the latrines and showers held no such luxuries.

Many of the detainees' worries centered around their children. Nobody knew what to expect, what kind of education their children would receive, or how they would be treated. The camp included a school, which had difficulty retaining teachers. Their sports teams were only allowed to play 'home' games, obviously.

"I used to wonder how the children could get up and sing such patriotic songs. They would sing 'I am an American' and all the songs we sang in our schools." Former Inyo County superintendent of schools.

The camp also was home to 101 Japanese-American orphans at the Children's Village. Half of the children came from institutions and foster homes, while others were separated from their families when their parents became ill, were arrested, or were the infant children of unwed mothers. At Manzanar they became an unusual family, forming friendships and ties, only to be scattered and uprooted again when the camp was shut down.

One corner of the auditorium was set up to explain what the children's experience at Manzanar was like, including the toy lending library:

Also, the harsh reality that all of the families lost their pets when they had to evacuate.

As if being forced to live in confinement wasn't bad enough, a questionnaire was sent to the residents with the intent of ferreting out the disloyal:

"Are you willing to serve in the armed forces of the United States on combat duty wherever ordered?"

21,000 young men were asked if they were willing to serve in combat. They didn't know how their responses would be used, or how soon they would be inducted. There was one sad story of a woman who saw her son volunteer for war and return to her in a pine box she was given his purple heart while still locked behind a barbed wire fence.

Several hundred men who refused to be drafted were convicted on federal charges.

"Will you swear unqualified allegiance to the United States of America and faithfully defend the United States from any or all attack by foreign or domestic forces, and forswear any form of allegiance or obedience to the Japanese emperor, or any other foreign government, power, or organization?"

Most of the second-generation Japanese resented the implication that they had ties to the Japanese emperor, while first-generation Japanese were prevented by law from becoming American citizens. In essence, this question forced them to choose between appearing disloyal to their adopted country or renouncing their singular citizenship. Many feared becoming stateless, having no country to call home.

Those who answered 'no' to both questions were considered 'disloyal', and many of them were transferred to a different facility. Some were eventually deported to Japan. While most of the detainees were resigned to their fate, there was some resistance. A protest which drew several hundred grew deadly after the crowd surged forward and the guards fired wildly at them, killing a 17 year old boy, fatally wounding another man, and injuring nine others.

Not all of the time spent at Manzanar was full of despair. People made new friends, fell in love and got married. They made the best of their situation by organizing clubs and groups, playing sports, running a newspaper, and cultivating lush gardens and lawns. In the span of months, they transformed the bleak, arid environment with Japanese-style gardens, complete with bridges over ponds. It gave them a sense of hope and something else to focus on.

Signs indicated that the ruins of these gardens were still standing outside, so I decided to explore them. On my way out, there were several exhibits tying this event to other struggles immigrants have faced in recent years, including inspirational quotes by the founding fathers and other historical figures.

"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." Thomas Paine

Outside, I began to walk across the fairly large complex. I ran across these rebuilt barracks, showing what the lodging was like. Inside there were simply beds.

Another building was set up as the mess hall, the sounds of a kitchen, dishes clattering and the mumble of a crowd playing in the background. Newspaper clippings reported that the internees grew vegetables in an attempt to make the camp self-sustaining, even managing to get a sizeable shoyu and tofu production facility up and running.

Further along were these gardens, a hollow shell of once-vibrant life. I tried to imagine what they were like surrounded by lush greenery, a pleasant respite from the heat of the desert.

There were a number of them scattered around.

The hospital wards, now merely foundations, gave me pause. It must have been terrifying to catch an illness here, especially given the rudimentary services available when the camp was new. This camp is in the middle of nowhere.

Nearby was the cemetery. All but a few of the bodies were removed once the camp was closed. Crafted by the internees and paid for by donation, the monument bears the inscription "soul consoling tower" on the front.

Visitors frequently leave offerings here, including origami cranes and items of personal significance. I found these gorgeous rainbow-colored cranes in a bouquet nearby.

Manzanar gave me a lot to think about. Those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it, and the growing encroachment of xenophobia and disregard for constitutional rights is a troubling bellwether. Hopefully we won't repeat our mistakes. The site did provide some hope, even in adversity the people here managed to laugh, love, and create beauty which survived even the demise of the camp itself.

My mind clouded with these thoughts, I made my way back to Lone Pine and reassured Nip that I hadn't met my doom in Death Valley. He suggested that I check out a place nearby called Fossil Falls for camping, and armed with directions, I set off into the fading light in search of it.

The turn off was fairly easy to spot once I knew what to look for, and it was conveniently near the highway. I managed to assemble my tent before it got completely dark, ate dinner, and slept. My only company was a single RV on the opposite side of the camp, so I felt like I had the place to myself.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:49 PM   #686
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Ya that Manzanar place is a real reminder of how not to over react and how not treat people.I drive by there often and it's kinda a creepy place when I think about it,it's good it's open for people to see and never forget
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:08 PM   #687
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Old 04-25-2013, 07:03 PM   #688
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Fey, you are a person of great depth and wonder.

Where the majority of people would pass on by such a place as Manzanar, you go and find the beauty hidden there.

All the best to you. Safe travels and Godspeed!

btw....if you ever find yourself up here on the Southern Oregon Coastline, don't hesitate to drop a line!
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:57 AM   #689
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+1 to that!
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Old 04-26-2013, 09:36 PM   #690
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Thanks for your thoughtful post about Manzanar. My parents were in their teens when they were sent to the camp in Topaz, Utah.

To this day, they talk about life in the camps; they're in their 80's...

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