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Old 04-26-2013, 08:28 PM   #4651
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Summer temps at Beale AFB are usually in the upper 90's and often well into the 100's. The radiated heat off the runway adds to it, plus lots of mini-thermals and a little crosswind certainly makes a difficult plane to land that much more difficult.
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Old 04-27-2013, 07:05 AM   #4652
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Yep - Just a little too slow and you fall out of the sky, but a little too fast and you pull the wings off The U-2 is an awesome plane
Check out the charts for early Lears...same scenario.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:34 AM   #4653
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Yikes. Good thing those wing tips have titanium sliders. They use Pontiac G6 chase cars now.
Close. They use G8s.
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:55 AM   #4654
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:19 AM   #4655
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They ought to use chase cars from the same year of the U2 airframe build. e.g. '57 DeSoto with a 440. (U2's are TR2's now, which came from the 80's, and I forget if they were new air-frames or modified from the originals).
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:30 AM   #4656
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They ought to use chase cars from the same year of the U2 airframe build. e.g. '57 DeSoto with a 440. (U2's are TR2's now, which came from the 80's, and I forget if they were new air-frames or modified from the originals).
That would be a hoot I just wouldn't want to have to maintain those old car engines if they were used in duty like this. Modern cars are just so much more reliable

About the designations - The U-2s were designated TR3s for a time, but that was changed back according to the USAF fact sheet:

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Built in complete secrecy by Kelly Johnson and the Lockheed Skunk Works, the original U-2A first flew in August 1955. Early flights over the Soviet Union in the late 1950s provided the president and other U.S. decision makers with key intelligence on Soviet military capability. In October 1962, the U-2 photographed the buildup of Soviet offensive nuclear missiles in Cuba, touching off the Cuban Missile Crisis. In more recent times, the U-2 has provided intelligence during operations in Korea, the Balkans, Afghanistan, and Iraq. When requested, the U-2 also provides peacetime reconnaissance in support of disaster relief from floods, earthquakes, and forest fires as well as search and rescue operations.

The U-2R, first flown in 1967, was 40 percent larger and more capable than the original aircraft. A tactical reconnaissance version, the TR-1A, first flew in August 1981 and was structurally identical to the U-2R. The last U-2 and TR-1 aircraft were delivered in October 1989; in 1992 all TR-1s and U-2s were designated as U-2Rs. Since 1994, $1.7 billion has been invested to modernize the U-2 airframe and sensors. These upgrades also included the transition to the GE F118-101 engine which resulted in the re-designation of all Air Force U-2 aircraft to the U-2S.

U-2s are home based at the 9th Reconnaissance Wing, Beale Air Force Base, California, but are rotated to operational detachments worldwide. U-2 pilots are trained at Beale using five two-seat aircraft designated as TU-2S before deploying for operational missions.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:36 PM   #4657
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Pretty cool stuff:

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Old 04-27-2013, 03:50 PM   #4658
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Interesting. That was before the advent and heyday of the "double wide" mobile home.

Not that a YF12/A12/SR71 would have quite fit but Lockheed soon built a solution to the overland route to Area 51 - the C5A. In about 1983 we'd look across the field (BUR) at night and see a C5A parked next to Lockheed with a white curtain from the building to rear door. It wasn't hard to figure out they didn't want anyone to see whatever it was. It was the F117, going to Groom Lake, AKA area 51. The flight would have taken about 40 minutes, not three days.
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Old 04-28-2013, 11:06 AM   #4659
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:50 PM   #4660
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Interesting. That was before the advent and heyday of the "double wide" mobile home.

Not that a YF12/A12/SR71 would have quite fit but Lockheed soon built a solution to the overland route to Area 51 - the C5A. In about 1983 we'd look across the field (BUR) at night and see a C5A parked next to Lockheed with a white curtain from the building to rear door. It wasn't hard to figure out they didn't want anyone to see whatever it was. It was the F117, going to Groom Lake, AKA area 51. The flight would have taken about 40 minutes, not three days.
"Skunk Works" by Ben R Rich and Leo Janos is a great read if this sort of thing is of interest.

"SR-71 Revealed" by Richard H Graham is another good one.

These books tell a lot, but its plain to see theres a lot they don't.

"Kelly. More than My Share of it All." by the man himself, is interesting, but not very well written or edited. I get the feeling he did it all himself and wouldn't allow input from those that know how to write such things.

"Boyd. The fighter Pilot Who Changed the Art of War." by Robert Coram is another great read.
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:11 AM   #4661
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Figure one of you guys would know.
Want to get an FAA PPL
Have a Canadian ATPL, but would like to be able to rent small stuff in the States.
Don't want anybody's job....just a Citabria for a couple of hours.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:11 AM   #4662
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Figure one of you guys would know.
Want to get an FAA PPL
Have a Canadian ATPL, but would like to be able to rent small stuff in the States.
Don't want anybody's job....just a Citabria for a couple of hours.
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Section 8 on p7?

Some paperwork, a written and a checkout in the airplane you want to fly?

Someone with actual experience can probably help more.





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Old 04-29-2013, 10:51 AM   #4663
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:45 PM   #4664
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:52 PM   #4665
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That has inline liquid cooled engines.......not air cooled radials
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