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Old 04-25-2013, 05:49 AM   #4831
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so would that give you Ohlins version of "skyhook"?

Sounds interesting, but my current shock ECU crapped out with the DES preload error and had to be replaced. It was done under warranty, but as I recall otherwise it was pretty expensive. I bet this one ain't cheap either, but its a nice option to have if I had to replace the shock ECU again.
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Old 04-25-2013, 03:04 PM   #4832
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How would that work if there are no potentiometers (or accelerometers) to measure the rate of change of the suspension?....??
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Old 04-25-2013, 09:06 PM   #4833
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so would that give you Ohlins version of "skyhook"?

Sounds interesting, but my current shock ECU crapped out with the DES preload error and had to be replaced. It was done under warranty, but as I recall otherwise it was pretty expensive. I bet this one ain't cheap either, but its a nice option to have if I had to replace the shock ECU again.
About 300 Euro if I recall from postings elsewhere, so really not that bad at all. The best news here is that Ohlins is developing the system. That suggests that the "DES" Ohlins equipped bikes will not be orphaned.
At $500 (or even 600) the Ohlins is a viable option for anybody who wants the upgrade or has had their existing OEM "SCU" take a crap out of warranty.

I'm happy they did it and could see it in my future if I needed to buy one.
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Old 04-27-2013, 04:13 AM   #4834
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Sure.

But how can they call it "semi-active" if there are no sensors to monitor the rate-of-change in suspension movement?

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Old 04-27-2013, 08:03 AM   #4835
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Sure.

But how can they call it "semi-active" if there are no sensors to monitor the rate-of-change in suspension movement?

I think we may be confusing two things here.
Ohlins has worked on the "mechatronic" or their semi-active rear shock. That is an aftermarket semi-active suspension only for the rear shock, so it will not be a "skyhook" (you need front and back semi-active) but it offers the on the go compression/damping adjustments that Ducati's DSS offers on front and rear suspension. Only that it works only on the rear suspension at this time. And it was priced at US$1,625 for the Ninja ZX-10R application.

Now, this other product being discussed here I think is in place of the current DES (or to work with the current DES). I don't think it is a semi-active component. Only an electronic adjustment of compression/damping. At least this is what the explanation and the prices seem to tell.

But I could be wrong.
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Old 04-27-2013, 09:12 AM   #4836
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It sounds as though it works via pre-programmed damping in relation to the bike's speed and/or setting the DES is in? Or in other words, the suspension firms more on its own over 75mph and if in Sport, and firms much less if the bike is in Touring cruising at 65mph?

The advertising/marketing above is a bit confusing. It works similar to what's on the Kawi ZX, becomes sportier when riding faster, more comfortable when not, etc.. Am I right in how I described it up above?
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:06 PM   #4837
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I'm going to call my Ohlins contact next week and try to get some details on this product.

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Old 04-29-2013, 05:08 AM   #4838
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The new Ohlins SCU setup and install guide supplied by an (European) owner over at .MS

http://www.ducati.ms/forums/attachme...000-03_0_3.pdf
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:32 AM   #4839
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What's the mod?
I believe you have to replace the pins that go thru the back of the front seat.

Or cut the pins down so their shorter in height .
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:54 AM   #4840
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Sure.

But how can they call it "semi-active" if there are no sensors to monitor the rate-of-change in suspension movement?

Sorry, a bit late getting back. I have the same question (discussed on the Ducati forum thread Obie linked to). The terminology gets confusing, but making the assumption that the shock adjusts itself to varying conditions (somehow) then the difference becomes how fast it responds, not if it responds, so perhaps the notion of semi-active still applies.

Indeed this question has been raised before (even by yours truly) and remains one in my mind. But I'll remain open minded and happy that they are continuing development on the system installed on my bike.
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:29 PM   #4841
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Multi test ride

Well boys tomorrow I am going to go for a test ride!!! I have researched to death my next bike & I think it might be the multi. Any advice??
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:42 PM   #4842
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Yeah, don't test ride it unless you're sure you want to spend the money!

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Old 05-02-2013, 05:04 PM   #4843
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Well boys tomorrow I am going to go for a test ride!!! I have researched to death my next bike & I think it might be the multi. Any advice??
Yeah ... don't forget your checkbook.
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:17 PM   #4844
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Ain't that the truth. I just put down a deposit today for a Pikes Peak
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:38 PM   #4845
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So it's that good? Has anybody ever rode one & not liked it? Anybody?
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