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Old 04-30-2013, 02:32 AM   #17341
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To sum up the last 1,000 pages it's a bunch of bored happy Tenere owners.
NO break downs. Some loose spokes, weeping fork seals misc personal adjustments
that's about it.

You have to realize this is a Tenere thread and owners tend to praise whatever they ride.
Tenere people tend to put this bike on their top favorite list. I generalize, but I've also followed
the full thread and own one due to all the positive owner feedback.
Well I figured that but most people will be honest with their assessment. I posted the same question over at the BMWMOA site and they told me to come over here... figures...
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:42 AM   #17342
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:46 AM   #17343
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Well I figured that but most people will be honest with their assessment. I posted the same question over at the BMWMOA site and they told me to come over here... figures...
You have to ride them...

Admittedly I did not test ride a GS but I did try the Triumph Explorer, nice bike but it wasn't what I was looking for.

But when I tried the Tenere I knew as soon as I rolled the bike and did some figure 8's in the parking lot that this was the bike I was looking for, a 7 mile test ride sealed the deal for me.
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:23 AM   #17344
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So this thread started in Feb. of 2008 so forgive me guys and gals that I don't read all the postings (over 1000 pages!). I might retire my 1996 K1100RS soon but looking for a replacement. In the running is a V-Strom, the Tenere or the F800GT or maybe another suggestion. I have seen many a V-Strom out there but looking at the Tenere is new for me. I am not interested in too much off road and it has to have the ability to have highway pegs installed. (Broke my right leg and I have to straighten it out on long rides). So to those who own or have owned what is your take on it? (I did read a few posts involving discussion on vibrations and not having a good out come.)

BTW, new to the site, howdy all :)
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if your off road requirements are minimal the new fjr1300 is awesome, but can you get highway pegs??
but of the three you mention my ownership bias says xt1200z
the strom has a great motor, the bmw's a capable bike from what i've heard
but the 45000km on mine say i didnt make a bad choice ranging from commuting to bouncing the big girl down and up 4wd tracks
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:26 AM   #17345
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vibrations ?

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what vibrations?
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:31 AM   #17346
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I bought this tenere to replace my FJR as my sport touring bike. I like the longer leg room, 6th gear and softer suspension for pot hole ridden roads. I loved my FJR, but am more comfortable on the super tenere.
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:59 AM   #17347
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I bought this tenere to replace my FJR as my sport touring bike. I like the longer leg room, 6th gear and softer suspension for pot hole ridden roads. I loved my FJR, but am more comfortable on the super tenere.
i'm going to try the longer leg room on the fjr with the high seat position in the morning cos i know what you mean, but the new fjr is pretty f'in improved i reckon after a few hundred k's on some pretty potholed roads (that i know where most potholes are)

tenere does do it well a lot cheaper though.... oh and the 6th gear thing too
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Old 04-30-2013, 06:05 AM   #17348
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I'd rather adjust the suspension than have to remove the ECU.
It's good there isn't much reason to get to it because it's sure buried in there
and the one allen bolt hidden in the inside fairing was thoughtful of mother Yamaha.

Anyway, I pulled it out tonight to get the reflash upgrade from AF-1. (hands rubbing)
I just stopped putting that bolt back in...

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Old 04-30-2013, 06:49 AM   #17349
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I just stopped putting that bolt back in...

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Ahh, weight savings. I get it.
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Old 04-30-2013, 07:23 AM   #17350
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Took my new bike for a spin after I picked it up, verdict: need shorty screen, foam grips since 12 hours later my hands are still sore otherwise a fantastic bike!
Just a question: why make a bike that weight almost a ton with a plastic gear rack that can not hold many pounds, does not make sense on a touring bike.
Jealous at people that think this bike is smooth and got no bad vibrations, wish you could feel my hands at the moment but I`m confident with some engine break in and some adjustments it will be better in the future.
Overall better bike than I thought it would be, great in the bends and good power.
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:13 AM   #17351
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Took my new bike for a spin after I picked it up, verdict: need shorty screen, foam grips since 12 hours later my hands are still sore otherwise a fantastic bike!
Just a question: why make a bike that weight almost a ton with a plastic gear rack that can not hold many pounds, does not make sense on a touring bike.
Jealous at people that think this bike is smooth and got no bad vibrations, wish you could feel my hands at the moment but I`m confident with some engine break in and some adjustments it will be better in the future.
Overall better bike than I thought it would be, great in the bends and good power.
I generally ride wearing bicycle full finger gel gloves. They're light form fit great and have
gel inserts in the palm. Use the fingerless when it heats up.

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Old 04-30-2013, 10:51 AM   #17352
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Jealous at people that think this bike is smooth and got no bad vibrations, wish you could feel my hands at the moment but I`m confident with some engine break in and some adjustments it will be better in the future.
Congrats on your new bike.

The vibes should get better, but I wouldn't expect miracles.

One thing that exacerbates the vibe problem on a new S10 is Yamaha's ridiculous "avoid prolonged operation above 3900 RPM" break-in recommendation. Conservative riders tend to interpret this basically as keeping the revs below 3900 almost all the time, and the bike isn't terribly happy, especially in stock tune, to take a lot of throttle below 3500. It smooths out greatly above 4K.

If you follow this guideline at all, I'd interpret "prolonged" to mean that you can rev the engine freely during acceleration, just don't cruise on the freeway for a long time above the limit.

Another thing I've noticed is that the S10, perhaps due to the crossplane crank since the crossplane R1 behaves similarly, tends to vibe more with increased throttle rather than increased RPM, so making your power through RPM rather than throttle opening also reduces vibes in general. The only time I notice my S10 vibing much is bucking into a strong headwind or climbing grades at moderate speeds in high gear. Cruising at 90 mph with a tailwind is eerily smooth, like the motor isn't even there.

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Old 04-30-2013, 11:31 AM   #17353
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Just a question: why make a bike that weight almost a ton with a plastic gear rack that can not hold many pounds, does not make sense on a touring bike.
It's almost like Yamaha didn't want to put much into that rack - they knew the aftermarket would take care of it. Some very cool, beautifully made racks have been designed for this bike.
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Old 04-30-2013, 11:33 AM   #17354
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Congrats on your new bike.

The vibes should get better, but I wouldn't expect miracles.

One thing that exacerbates the vibe problem on a new S10 is Yamaha's ridiculous "avoid prolonged operation above 3900 RPM" break-in recommendation. Conservative riders tend to interpret this basically as keeping the revs below 3900 almost all the time, and the bike isn't terribly happy, especially in stock tune, to take a lot of throttle below 3500. It smooths out greatly above 4K.

If you follow this guideline at all, I'd interpret "prolonged" to mean that you can rev the engine freely during acceleration, just don't cruise on the freeway for a long time above the limit.

Another thing I've noticed is that the S10, perhaps due to the crossplane crank since the crossplane R1 behaves similarly, tends to vibe more with increased throttle rather than increased RPM, so making your power through RPM rather than throttle opening also reduces vibes in general. The only time I notice my S10 vibing much is bucking into a strong headwind or climbing grades at moderate speeds in high gear. Cruising at 90 mph with a tailwind is eerily smooth, like the motor isn't even there.

- Mark
Mark I would agree with your observations about the S10. The bike is much smoother above 4k rpm. I basically came to same working definition of "prolonged" as you and rode during break in just as you described.

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Old 04-30-2013, 01:04 PM   #17355
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Took my new bike for a spin after I picked it up, verdict: need shorty screen, foam grips since 12 hours later my hands are still sore otherwise a fantastic bike!
Just a question: why make a bike that weight almost a ton with a plastic gear rack that can not hold many pounds, does not make sense on a touring bike.
Jealous at people that think this bike is smooth and got no bad vibrations, wish you could feel my hands at the moment but I`m confident with some engine break in and some adjustments it will be better in the future.
Overall better bike than I thought it would be, great in the bends and good power.
Sync your throttle bodies, mine was a night and day difference after that. It's free and helps smooth things out.
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