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Old 04-30-2013, 11:30 AM   #2431
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You don't have a 1st batch TR like some of us. The stalling at low RPM's is a real pain in the ass that is addressed with a MOSS reflash. I still haven't taken mine over to Tucson to have it done, but I will eventually.

And the 'ECU Error' someone had before was from a loose battery cable if I remember correctly.

I keep telling you people but no one is listening... CUT THE TAIL OFF!

Thanks, Rugged. I thought there was more to it than a loose battery cable but perhaps I was mistaken.

There's no need to cut the tail off. All you need to do is to remove the mufflers and luggage rack and then wrap about a dozen wraps of duct tape around the rear end just a little ahead of the tail light. I did that to secure my rear end section after it completely broke off. Really! it was dangling from the bike on the electrical wires. The new parts are on back order and the bike could not be ridden in that condition so I duct taped it back on and I've been riding it like that for a month now while I wait for the new parts to arrive. I've put several hundred miles on FSRs, and 4WD track on it like that and it's held up fine. When I get the new parts I'll wrap them with tape too, you can barely notice the tape with the mufflers and luggage rack in place. That way when it's time to replace the bike I don't have to worry about permanent alterations affecting the resale value, and you get the benefit of better mud splatter protection too.

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Old 04-30-2013, 11:52 AM   #2432
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I did some searching and came up with this thread on cafe husky. Apparently it's an EWS (engine imobilizer) problem. There is a fairly good discussion about it with some useful info. Here's the link:

http://www.cafehusky.com/threads/tr6...ser-ews.29727/

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Old 04-30-2013, 12:27 PM   #2433
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I bought a Terra last month and I too am concerned about this "MOSS flash" business. I think what Ricky Chuck was concerned about is the same concern that I have - and it's got nothing to do with how well the bike runs. There have been reports about some kind of an ECU problem. Apparently something can go wrong resulting in "ECU Error" (or something to that effect) being displayed on the speedometer readout. When this happens the bike cannot be started until it is re-flashed with the MOSS tool. I am very concerned about this happening when I'm a hundred miles from no-where. Can somebody please elaborate on what this is all about?

Other than that this is a great bike and I couldn't be happier with its performance. I'd highly recommend it to anyone who wants a bike that is great on the street and can still handle fairly gnarly 4WD tracks. One thing I'd recommend to everyone who buys this bike and intends to ride it off-road is to remove the mufflers and luggage rack and wrap about a dozen or so wraps of good quality duct tape (I used Gorilla tape, worked perfectly) around the rear end to keep it from breaking off. After you put the mufflers and luggage rack back on the duct tape is barely noticeable.

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The "EWS" I experienced was from the dimmer switch from chinese made LEDs. Once I figured out that issue...all I had to do to start the bike was "cycle" the key off & on. With the LEDs turned off. Not really a fault of the Husky.....but the lesser expensive lights.

The "moss" problem I & others have had ,as far as I know, is more annoying than anything else. I for sure was never left stranded. My TR always started....just ran rough & stumbled some at lower RPMs until I had the moss done.
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Old 04-30-2013, 02:13 PM   #2434
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The "EWS" I experienced was from the dimmer switch from chinese made LEDs. Once I figured out that issue...all I had to do to start the bike was "cycle" the key off & on. With the LEDs turned off. Not really a fault of the Husky.....but the lesser expensive lights.

The "moss" problem I & others have had ,as far as I know, is more annoying than anything else. I for sure was never left stranded. My TR always started....just ran rough & stumbled some at lower RPMs until I had the moss done.
Thanks, Trapperj, from the posts on cafe husky it appears that it's quite common for the emf eminating from aftermarket LEDs to trigger the engine immobilization system. My main concern was having the system strand me way out in the bush but from what I've found out today it appears that that concern was unfounded.

As was pointed out in an earlier post I have one of the later edition TR650s so the low rpm stalling problem is not an issue with me.

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Old 04-30-2013, 03:38 PM   #2435
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The "moss" problem I & others have had ,as far as I know, is more annoying than anything else.
Until you roll off prior to a slow turn and have the thing up and quit then end up runover by the truck following too close behind you while you get it restarted. Not an issue if you never ride in town or have anyone behind you who assumes you'll continue to make forward progress. Mine runs great after getting it fix, before that I considered the problem to be a major safety issue.
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:51 PM   #2436
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On my bike, which was a mess when new, stalled all the time, ran horribly under 4k, etc., the MOSS fix was not FI mapping related. It was an idle actuator reset that resolved the issues.
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I keep telling you people but no one is listening... CUT THE TAIL OFF!
not necessary....just get rid of the weight by removing the metal frame, and replace it with an Enduro Engineering plastic backing plate.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:46 PM   #2437
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What's the normal out of the door price for a Terra 650 in the PNW?
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:31 PM   #2438
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O2 sensor?

Does Terra have O2 sensor?
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Old 04-30-2013, 08:43 PM   #2439
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Does Terra have O2 sensor?
Yes.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:07 PM   #2440
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Where are these discounted TR650s I'm reading about?
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:32 PM   #2441
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Where are these discounted TR650s I'm reading about?
I have one, 5400 tax tags out the door. Today I did a 120 mile ride, then relocated lic plate, cig lighter on handle bars, super bright head light "what a bitch" and sea horse box. if anyone wants to up grade the head light take the head light off it will save the headache that required 2 shots of jack. she turned 302miles today.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:50 PM   #2442
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Yes.
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Old 04-30-2013, 10:32 PM   #2443
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bingo
not necessary....just get rid of the weight by removing the metal frame, and replace it with an Enduro Engineering plastic backing plate.
I removed the metal lic plate frame and bolted the plate directly to the fender and the whole back end still broke off my bike. If you put in a couple of hundred miles on unpaved FSRs you need to do more than lighten the rear end. It must be re-enforced. The problem is the black plastic housing which holds the tail light is not sufficiantly secured to the rest of the bike and given enough bumps and vibration it will fail.

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Old 05-01-2013, 07:07 AM   #2444
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Just thought I would post a pic of the Strada from last night...

Currently installed items include heated grips, husky windshield, a TKC-80 up front, Terra front end, 12V on the bars, GPS mount, side stand foot enlarger, touratech handguards, and a Moose folding shift lever. I am just waiting on my skid plate and crashbars from Altrider. Planning to log some miles this summer in Appalachia and the East coast once work slows down. Now is the time to buy one. You can farkle till your heart's content and still pay less than MSRP!

Also, even if you are not having overheating issues with your bike check the radiator coolant level! Mine was very low and took a surprising amount of burping and coolant to get it right.

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Old 05-01-2013, 07:15 AM   #2445
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I'm vacilating again,,, this MOSS problem and now the broken fender. If I can get one OTD for $5200, tho, that's a deal hard to beat.

Still on the road (Stecoah, NC right now) but will be home by the weekend. I'll call BMW Las Vegas to check out availability. Cheap enuff.

(The other deal I have on the hook is an 03 DRZ 400 for $2000, with goodies already attached. Still, the 650 sounds good. )
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