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Old 05-07-2013, 10:20 AM   #15166
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I feel the need to conduct an "Is Mexico Safe" safety meeting. Somewhere in Mexico, of course.
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:26 AM   #15167
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Look who's been livin' large

I bet the dingy on your sailboat is bigger than Spielberg's yacht
21 foot trailerable Schock Santana. Retractable keel so it was easy to put in and haul out and good for shallow water. Great little boat that we took out in weather that we probably should have stayed home in... a bit like riding in Mexico...only dangerous if you get unlucky... SA squared.
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:33 AM   #15168
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I feel the need to conduct an "Is Mexico Safe" safety meeting. Somewhere in Mexico, of course.
Wonder if you're talking Tom style (Balloonman in Pto Escondido) safety meeting
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Old 05-07-2013, 10:44 AM   #15169
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Trade? No.

Sell? Let's talk.

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Old 05-07-2013, 12:37 PM   #15170
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I feel the need to conduct an "Is Mexico Safe" safety meeting. Somewhere in Mexico, of course.
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Wonder if you're talking Tom style (Balloonman in Pto Escondido) safety meeting
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Old 05-07-2013, 12:48 PM   #15171
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Flying in and out of Paris, taking the TGV bullet train both ways to/from the coast.


IMTBike

They have an operation out of Barcelona and are very well regarded.
I have taken that TGV Bullet Train from Paris...very nice indeed.
Thanks for the tip on IMTBike motorcycle rental. I had never heard of this outfit but may just be perfect for next September's European tour

Considering another GS purchase in your backyard. Bike would need to go to Phoenix to be garaged for a few months. If any inmates looking for a one way ride let me know real soon.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:35 PM   #15172
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Thanks for the tip on IMTBike motorcycle rental.
IMTBike has moved their Barcelona HQ to this run down building:



Basilica de la Sagrada Família

Business must be good!

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Old 05-07-2013, 04:33 PM   #15173
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I feel the need to conduct an "Is Mexico Safe" safety meeting. Somewhere in Mexico, of course.
Sounds good......when and where?
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:58 AM   #15174
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For those interested in importing and nationalizing a moto in Mexico, a customs broker has told me that non-nafta motos <250cc are taxed off the Mexican book at 17%. Non-nafta motos >250cc are taxed at 38%.
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:27 AM   #15175
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Kiko, 38% of what? The factura bill of sale or some sort of agreed value for used bikes?
Any idea what they consider a NAFTA bike?
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:37 AM   #15176
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38% of what?
Thanks!
38% of the rider's weight

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Old 05-08-2013, 06:17 AM   #15177
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Kiko, 38% of what? The factura bill of sale or some sort of agreed value for used bikes?
Any idea what they consider a NAFTA bike?
Thanks!
38% tax is based on the Aduana's used vehicle book, sort of like NADA but their version. Nafta vehicles VIN starts with a number, manufactured in North America. My Honda and Kawasaki VIN starts with a J, Japanese, hence I pay the 38% rate, '06 XR650R $1480.00 and '08 Kawasaki Versys $1990.00

You also need original title or bill of sale, and Mexican ID with photo and Mexican address like a Mexican Passport, Mexican Visa, or electoral card. No FMM, or you will need to import your bike under a Mexican's ID and then flip the ownership after the process is complete on the other side of the border. You will also need to pay for the plates that are issued in your state, but that should not be much.

I've got 30 days to return my foreign plated vehicles to the border and once there I can import/nationalize to return the vehicles to Mexico.

The laws will probably change again before I have a chance to post this,
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Old 05-08-2013, 07:51 AM   #15178
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38% of the rider's weight

You're welcome
Holy sht! No more tacos for me!

Meanwhile, thanks Kiko, handy to know. I can get my wife to import the bike and skip the hassle with the ID requisite. Damn shame they won't lift the restriction for bikes that are over 10 years old like they do on the cars and pickups. I'm going to pass along your info, Kiko, to a couple of people I know and it'll save them some hassles.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:50 AM   #15179
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If you converted to the Permanente Visa since the law changed in November of 2012, then your Permanente card should qualify you for vehicle import purposes,

Temporal Visa or a FMM requires the 180 day TVIP. No more letters from Aduana giving you annual permission to keep the vehicle in Mexico without a new sticker every 180 days.

If you went Permanent then you need a letter to exit the country with your foreign plates and you have 30 days to do so. No foreign plates permitted with the Permanent visa.

On a side note (in Jalisco anyway), you will get hung with 35% capital gains taxes if you sell property in Mexico with any Visa other than the permanent visa. The tax is 35% of the difference between the sales price of the property and the value on the tax rolls, not the difference between what you pd for the property and the sales price when you sold. Tax roll values here are a mere fraction of the value of the property usually so the capital gains tax can be a big hit.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:58 AM   #15180
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'06 XR650R $1480.00 and '08 Kawasaki Versys $1990.00 QUOTE]

Not having to fool around with renewing TVIPs, PRICELESS!

Don't forget, after you pick up the bike you need to stop at the 30km checkpoint and have them put a stamp on your pedimento (import document). I almost missed that important detail of the process.
Thanks, no one told me about that. Since my bikes are all old and high mileage, I'm thinking of retiring them to Texas and then taking a hard look at the Yamaha XT660 Tenere that is available in Mexico.
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