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Old 05-22-2013, 12:29 PM   #1606
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Tool friends, I have a question, since we're talking tires.

Why do guys use these:


Instead of these:
i dont see first picture but my snake has valve tool on it

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Old 05-22-2013, 01:07 PM   #1607
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Tool friends, I have a question, since we're talking tires.

Why do guys use these:


Instead of these:
Cause the tubes they bought don't have caps with the tool?

So they can have another spendy MP tool?

So they can run it in a power screwdriver and do dozens in a flash?

I do AC work and all the small valves use automotive style cores (different compound tho) and about half the heavy brass caps have the tool, the other half don't. Depends on whose valve it is. But AC guys have the same silly tool and a lot of small screwdrivers have it on the butt end. I now have dozens and dozens of really nice brass core tools from salvaged caps.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:45 PM   #1608
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Tool friends, I have a question, since we're talking tires.

Why do guys use these:
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Instead of these:

I use neither. I think this cost me about $2.98.

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Old 05-22-2013, 02:30 PM   #1609
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Thanks guys. I have the MP tool, but then hit myself on the forehead remembering the valve caps with integrated remover. I wasn't sure if I was missing something.

So now I have 2 tool-caps and one fewer tool in the tool roll.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:02 PM   #1610
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i dont see first picture but my snake has valve tool on it


I used the snake... but after watching this vid (look at 2:00 min) I don't even bother anymore.
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:50 PM   #1611
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Tool friends, I have a question, since we're talking tires.

Why do guys use these:


Instead of these:
I use the snake kind, not either of the above... The reason I do not use the cap style is I want to ensure I have one in my kit I can find, and the caps tend to get lost eventually...

As for the bead breaker tire irons, I travel with these...
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:24 PM   #1612
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I haven't had trouble with getting the valve through the rim, most recently with Shinko 705s front and rear and a Pirelli Scorpion Rally up front. Yeah, it took me maybe 30 secs, but it didn't seem to merit buying the snake tool.

I suppose it is harder with full-on street tires.
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Old 05-22-2013, 04:35 PM   #1613
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I haven't had trouble with getting the valve through the rim, most recently with Shinko 705s front and rear and a Pirelli Scorpion Rally up front. Yeah, it took me maybe 30 secs, but it didn't seem to merit buying the snake tool.

I suppose it is harder with full-on street tires.
I've found it most helpful when trying to align the rim lock with a tube tire. It's always easier (for me, anyway) to use the snake on the valve just to keep track of it. I have big hands and hate to pinch them between the tire bead and the rim while aligning the rim lock or just trying to keep track of the valve...

Of course, it is not a necessary tool, but it sure makes the job easier for me...
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Old 05-22-2013, 05:13 PM   #1614
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I used the snake... but after watching this vid (look at 2:00 min) I don't even bother anymore.
Exactly how I do it. I have a couple of those snake things and I've never had to use one.
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:35 PM   #1615
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As for the bead breaker tire irons, I travel with these...


I always just use two tire spoons reversed and work them around. I have tried to find a review of those but no luck. How well do they work?
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Old 05-22-2013, 07:41 PM   #1616
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I always just use two tire spoons reversed and work them around. I have tried to find a review of those but no luck. How well do they work?

hmm, so far every time somebody ran a flat on a ride the beat broke before the bike stopped, but I guess you could get a flat while parked.

That's one think I should think about for solo rides (otherwise I just use the kickstand of another bike anyway)
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:32 PM   #1617
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I just picked up the MP metric kit last week. Had a chance to play with it yesterday and get a feel for it while I did some basic things. I second your comments about the welding. Either that, or you can't use the sockets on anything that requires more than the most minimal amount of torque.

It's a great little piece of kit for most things, but the extension arm that's used either as 1/4" or 3/8" driver will twist inside itself making it useless if you are using it on anything that's 'somewhat' tight.

So then the question is to fix that (weld it like ftb did) or just use the parts that work well and add substitute parts to the kit.

All I know is I'm glad I practiced with it in my garage before doing it in the field.


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Interesting to hear that someone else had the same issue as me and more importantly you found out in the comfort of your garage.

Once welded it's darn reliable and functional. I've been using it for a solid year since the welding, in the field and garage and has worked a charm. It should only cost a couple bucks for your local welding shop to put a bead around it and fix it right and you'll be a happy pup with the space it saves in the toolkit. A shame that Motion Pro is aware of the issue but has not changed the assembling methods of the piece. If it does not work 100% I would not bother packing it in a tool kit as tools are usually needed when shit goes wrong and reliability of the tool is a must have.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:34 PM   #1618
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Tool friends, I have a question, since we're talking tires.

Why do guys use these:


Instead of these:

Funny thing is a just brought that stupid Motion Pro tool. The damn locals where I live have stolen 3 sets of my valve core removal caps so had to break down and buy the tool to keep in my tool kit now. Otherwise no reason to not go with the air caps in my eyes.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:42 PM   #1619
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Funny thing is a just brought that stupid Motion Pro tool. The damn locals where I live have stolen 3 sets of my valve core removal caps so had to break down and buy the tool to keep in my tool kit now. Otherwise no reason to not go with the air caps in my eyes.
Wow. Thailand has rednecks too!
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Old 05-23-2013, 12:49 PM   #1620
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Funny thing is a just brought that stupid Motion Pro tool. The damn locals where I live have stolen 3 sets of my valve core removal caps so had to break down and buy the tool to keep in my tool kit now. Otherwise no reason to not go with the air caps in my eyes.
I keep a couple of spare valve core removal caps and valves in the patch kit. Twice I have had valves fail to seal after checking pressures.
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