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Old 05-23-2013, 07:13 AM   #7966
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Yep. An old sock. Drop it in, wrap it around, fold the cuff to secure. Works great and the price is right.
Mine just sits on my kitchen table or desk when not being used, so doesn't even need a sock.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:37 AM   #7967
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I tried using it on my jacket but every time I went into a restaurant but left the gps switched on, on the bike, the ANT connection was lost. I had to shut the gps off, then turn it back on, or turn the ANT signal off, then back on, before the connection re-established itself between the Tempe and the gps.

That's why I make sure the Tempe and the gps always travel together now by virtue of them being tied together.
I do the same thing (luckily I live in a place where I don't have to worry about scumbag thieves stealing it) so the jacket thing wouldn't work for me either.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:41 AM   #7968
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Mine just sits on my kitchen table or desk when not being used, so doesn't even need a sock.
Same here. Although I do keep clear/tinted visors in old socks.
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:58 AM   #7969
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Hmmmm, you did copy all the stuff you deleted somewhere for...ya know... backup's sake?

Like the genius that I am, I did not... I will in the future.

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I think if you hook the unit up to https://my.garmin.com/mygarmin/dashb...?in=true&ni=ff it will scan the device and restore missing default files. Not sure if it will do the basemap, but worth a try. I know that when I deleted the factory dashboard files from my Zumo 350, it restored all of them.

I just tried this, but the Dashboard app said that all my maps and software are up to date. It did give me the option to look to see if there were any voices or vehicles available. I tried this, but it only listed a few voices.
I was playing around with the unit some more this morning and noticed that all of my shortcut options are gone , as well as some of the apps.

I'm calling Garmin now to see what they say. Any further help here would be great in case they fail.

Thanks, everyone!
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:34 AM   #7970
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I'm calling Garmin now to see what they say. Any further help here would be great in case they fail.


Thanks, everyone!

Lot's of fail at Garmin, but in this case I think the fail is in the mirror.

Good luck though. Perhaps the files could be sent to the Montana dropbox from someone here.
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Old 05-23-2013, 09:39 AM   #7971
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I was playing around with the unit some more this morning and noticed that all of my shortcut options are gone , as well as some of the apps.


Gone from where? Main Screen? Drawer? Which Profile?

Try this: Hook it up to the computer, view with Windows Explorer, go to Montana/Garmin/Shortcuts. If you see all the shortcuts you had before, then eject, power up, go to Setup for whichever profile you're interested in, Main Menu, click the options (three bars), then Setup Drawer, and start adding the shortcuts and apps back one by one with the plus sign in upper right corner.

Re-arrange them around to your needs, then select another profile (if you want) and do the same thing. It helps to make all your profiles have almost exactly the same main screen and drawers, you get used to seeing icons in the same place all the time.

THEN re-connect to computer and save all the Profiles, Shortcuts, and anything else you may ever need to a folder on the HDD you can always find, like: My Garmin/Montana/Garmin. I just mirror everything in the Montana except maps, which are put in a separate folder (the one for the SD card, which is where I put all my maps), so I can swap them in and out without having to use MapInstall.

I have seen this behavior from time to time. It usually takes me a while to remember that yes, I really did have that app or shortcut in that Profile...
Then I just overwrite that Profile in the Montana with the known good one on the HDD.

I'm using 4.7, I won't go to 4.9, I think it's too flaky.

If your Shortcuts have REALLY disappeared from the Garmin/Shortcuts folder, then you will have to rebuild them or get some from Dropbox.

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Old 05-23-2013, 09:40 AM   #7972
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....I'm calling Garmin now to see what they say. Any further help here would be great in case they fail....
Perhaps your best bet is to find someone with a Montana (is yours the 600, 650 or 650t?) and copy the files you need from their unit.

I made a snapshot of the internal memory as soon as I pulled the unit out of the box and can pretty easily send you a list of the files that come pre-installed. There's about 500MB's worth. Most of this is the voices and if you aren't concerned about all the foreign voices it's closer to 100MB. I could

I don't know if the basemap is locked to the unit.. if it is then copying it won't work but I'd guess it isn't.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:45 AM   #7973
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Original files from my 600:

\.VolumeIcon.icns
\autorun.inf
\Documents\START_HERE.html
\Documents\files\c\garmin copy.css
\Documents\files\c\garmin.css
\Documents\files\c\grids-min.css
\Documents\files\c\reset-fonts-grids.css
\Documents\files\c\styleIE.css
\Documents\files\j\jquery.js
\Documents\files\m\garmin-logo.gif
\Documents\files\m\garmin.gif
\Documents\files\m\hd.jpg
\Documents\files\m\ic-add.gif
\Documents\files\m\ic-arrow.gif
\Documents\files\m\nv-logo.jpg
\Documents\files\m\worldmap.gif
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_CS.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_DA.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_DE.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_EN.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_ES.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_FI.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_FR.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_IT.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_NL.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_NO.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_PL.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_PT.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_RU.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_SV.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_CS.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_DA.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_DE.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_EN.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_ES.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_FI.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_FR.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_IT.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_NL.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_NO.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_PL.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_PT.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_RU.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_SV.pdf
\Garmin\fs_image.ver
\Garmin\GarminDevice.xml
\Garmin\Garmintriangletm.ico
\Garmin\gmapbmap.img
\Garmin\gmapbmap.sum
\Garmin\gmaptz.img
\Garmin\gmaptz.sum
\Garmin\startup.txt
\Garmin\system.xml
\Garmin\BirdsEye\Brienzer Rothorn.JNX
\Garmin\BirdsEye\Carrauntoohil.JNX
\Garmin\BirdsEye\Demo.JNX
\Garmin\BirdsEye\Grand Canyon National Park.JNX
\Garmin\BirdsEye\Mount Blanc.JNX
\Garmin\BirdsEye\Snowdon.JNX
\Garmin\BirdsEye\Zell Am See.JNX
\Garmin\ExtData\006-D0952-05.bin
\Garmin\ExtData\006-D0952-06.bin
\Garmin\Filters\Geocache\Quick Filter.gff
\Garmin\GPX\BirdsEye Demo.gpx
\Garmin\GPX\European BirdsEye Demo.gpx
\Garmin\GPX\Garmin Waypoints.gpx
\Garmin\GPX\Grand Canyon National Park.gpx
\Garmin\GPX\Current\Current.gpx
\Garmin\JPEG\Garmin_Asia.jpg
\Garmin\JPEG\Garmin_Europe.jpg
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\Garmin\Profiles\Automotive.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Black_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Black_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Black_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Black_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Blue_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Blue_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Blue_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Blue_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Classic.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Fitness.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Geocaching.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Lens_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Lens_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Lens_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Lens_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Marine.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Motorcycle.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Orange_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Orange_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Orange_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Orange_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Parchment_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Parchment_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Parchment_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Parchment_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Profiles.ver
\Garmin\Profiles\Recreational.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Road_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Road_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Road_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Road_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Track_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Track_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Track_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Track_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Water_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Water_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Water_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Water_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Shortcuts\Go Home.gsf
\Garmin\Shortcuts\Stop Navigation.gsf
\Garmin\Shortcuts\Track Log Off.gsf
\Garmin\Shortcuts\Track Log On.gsf
\Garmin\SQL\system.db
\Garmin\Text\Arabic.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Bulgarian.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Croatian.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Czech.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Danish.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Dutch.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Farsi.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Finnish.gtt
\Garmin\Text\French.gtt
\Garmin\Text\German.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Greek.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Hungarian.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Italian.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Latvian.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Norwegian.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Polish.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Portuguese.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Romanian.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Russian.gtt
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\Garmin\Text\Slovenian.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Spanish.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Swedish.gtt
\Garmin\Text\Turkish.gtt
\Garmin\Vehicle\3D Arrow.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Bash.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Beach Ball.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Car.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Crow.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Float Trip.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Mud Slinger.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Nomad.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Rock Star.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Roundabout.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Truck.srf
\Garmin\Vehicle\Vehicles.ver
\Garmin\Vehicle\Winter Warrior.srf
\Garmin\Voice\Afrikaans__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Afrikaans__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Arabic__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Arabic__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Arabic__Maged.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Arabic__Maged.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Bulgarian__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Bulgarian__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Cantonese__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Cantonese__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Catala__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Catala__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Cesky__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Cesky__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Chinese_Simplified_.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Chinese_Simplified_.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Chinese_Traditional_.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Chinese_Traditional_.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Dansk__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Dansk__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Dansk__Nanna.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Dansk__Nanna.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Deutsch__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Deutsch__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Deutsch__Marie.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Deutsch__Marie.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Deutsch__Steffi.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Deutsch__Steffi.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Deutsch__Yannick.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Deutsch__Yannick.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Eesti__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Eesti__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Ellinika__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Ellinika__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Jack.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Jack.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Jill.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Jill.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Michelle.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Michelle.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_Australian_Karen.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_Australian_Karen.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_Australian_Lee.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_Australian_Lee.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Daniel.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Daniel.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Emily.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Emily.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_James.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_James.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Kate.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Kate.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Espanol_Americas_Ana.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Espanol_Americas_Ana.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Espanol_Americas_Javier.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Espanol_Americas_Javier.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Espanol_Americas_Paulina.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Espanol_Americas_Paulina.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Espanol_European_Alicia.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Espanol_European_Alicia.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Espanol_European_Isabel.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Espanol_European_Isabel.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Flemish__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Flemish__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_Canadian_.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_Canadian_.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_Canadien_Felix.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_Canadien_Felix.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_Canadien_Julie.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_Canadien_Julie.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_European_Agathe.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_European_Agathe.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_European_Sebastian.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_European_Sebastian.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_European_Virginie.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Francais_European_Virginie.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Hrvatski__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Hrvatski__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Italiano__Silvia.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Italiano__Silvia.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Italiano__Simona.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Italiano__Simona.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Japanese__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Japanese__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Korean__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Korean__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Letzebuergesch__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Letzebuergesch__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Lietuviu__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Lietuviu__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Magyar__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Magyar__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Nederlands_Belgie_Ellen.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Nederlands_Belgie_Ellen.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Nederlands__Claire.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Nederlands__Claire.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Nederlands__Lieke.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Nederlands__Lieke.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Norsk__Nora.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Norsk__Nora.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Polski__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Polski__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Portuguese_Brazilian_Raquel.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Portuguese_Brazilian_Raquel.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Portuguese_European_Madalena.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Portuguese_European_Madalena.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Portugues_Brazilian_.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Portugues_Brazilian_.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Portugues_European_.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Portugues_European_.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Romana__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Romana__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Russkiy__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Russkiy__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Slovencina__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Slovencina__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Slovenscina__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Slovenscina__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Srpski__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Srpski__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Suomi__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Suomi__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Svenska__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Svenska__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Svenska__Ingrid.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Svenska__Ingrid.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Taiwanese__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Taiwanese__.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\Turkce__.sum
\Garmin\Voice\Turkce__.vpm
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:19 AM   #7974
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A lot of your list is superfluous, or stuff added by yourself after the fact. Many of the voices/manuals in different languages are not necessary, and I recognize a lot of vehicle icons which are not in the original gps image.

I've trimmed the list to what I think is pretty much necessary.

\.VolumeIcon.icns
\autorun.inf
\Documents\START_HERE.html
\Documents\files\c\garmin copy.css
\Documents\files\c\garmin.css
\Documents\files\c\grids-min.css
\Documents\files\c\reset-fonts-grids.css
\Documents\files\c\styleIE.css
\Documents\files\j\jquery.js
\Documents\files\m\garmin-logo.gif
\Documents\files\m\garmin.gif
\Documents\files\m\hd.jpg
\Documents\files\m\ic-add.gif
\Documents\files\m\ic-arrow.gif
\Documents\files\m\nv-logo.jpg
\Documents\files\m\worldmap.gif
\Documents\files\pdf\OM_EN.pdf
\Documents\files\pdf\QSM_EN.pdf
\Garmin\fs_image.ver
\Garmin\GarminDevice.xml
\Garmin\Garmintriangletm.ico
\Garmin\gmapbmap.img
\Garmin\gmapbmap.sum
\Garmin\gmaptz.img
\Garmin\gmaptz.sum
\Garmin\startup.txt
\Garmin\system.xml
\Garmin\Profiles\Automotive.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Black_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Black_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Black_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Black_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Blue_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Blue_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Blue_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Blue_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Classic.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Fitness.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Geocaching.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Lens_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Lens_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Lens_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Lens_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Marine.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Motorcycle.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Orange_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Orange_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Orange_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Orange_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Parchment_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Parchment_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Parchment_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Parchment_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Profiles.ver
\Garmin\Profiles\Recreational.gpf
\Garmin\Profiles\Road_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Road_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Road_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Road_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Track_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Track_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Track_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Track_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Water_landscape_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Water_landscape_night.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Water_portrait_day.jpg
\Garmin\Profiles\Water_portrait_night.jpg
\Garmin\Shortcuts\Go Home.gsf
\Garmin\Shortcuts\Stop Navigation.gsf
\Garmin\Shortcuts\Track Log Off.gsf
\Garmin\Shortcuts\Track Log On.gsf
\Garmin\SQL\system.db
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Jack.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Jack.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Jill.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Jill.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Michelle.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_American_Michelle.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_Australian_Karen.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_Australian_Karen.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_Australian_Lee.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_Australian_Lee.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Daniel.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Daniel.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Emily.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Emily.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_James.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_James.vpm
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Kate.sum
\Garmin\Voice\English_British_Kate.vpm
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Old 05-23-2013, 11:54 AM   #7975
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A lot of your list is superfluous, or stuff added by yourself after the fact. Many of the voices/manuals in different languages are not necessary, and I recognize a lot of vehicle icons which are not in the original gps image.

This is the list out-of-the-box, brand new - nothing in there was added by me at that point. Notice the lack of waypoint, route or track files. In fact, the only .gpx file besides the four Garmin demo files is "current.gpx" and it contains nothing but a couple of track points from turning the unit on before it switched over to USB mode. I literally pulled the unit from the box when I got it new, plugged it in to the PC and copied the entire directory structure before ever doing a thing with the unit. The vehicle icons were already there. I thought it might be a good idea to be able to return the unit to new, out-of-the-box setup. I haven't needed to, but the 500MB or so seemed like good insurance.

I agree that a lot isn't necessary. I think the entire "Documents" directory could be tossed. You could easily toss all but one voice and they take up the most space...

He is more than welcome to any or all of the files copied from my unit when I pulled it from the box if he thinks it will help....
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Old 05-23-2013, 01:13 PM   #7976
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Loss of signal

Well Garmin email support has suggested to me that I reinstall firmware version 4.9, which I have done. That however does not explain the loss of signal issues I have experienced under the older versions of the firmware.

Will try it next week, and also take my external antenna along to see if this helps.
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This is the list out-of-the-box, brand new - nothing in there was added by me at that point. Notice the lack of waypoint, route or track files. In fact, the only .gpx file besides the four Garmin demo files is "current.gpx" and it contains nothing but a couple of track points from turning the unit on before it switched over to USB mode. I literally pulled the unit from the box when I got it new, plugged it in to the PC and copied the entire directory structure before ever doing a thing with the unit. The vehicle icons were already there. I thought it might be a good idea to be able to return the unit to new, out-of-the-box setup. I haven't needed to, but the 500MB or so seemed like good insurance.

I agree that a lot isn't necessary. I think the entire "Documents" directory could be tossed. You could easily toss all but one voice and they take up the most space...

He is more than welcome to any or all of the files copied from my unit when I pulled it from the box if he thinks it will help....
Interesting - I thought for sure some of those vehicles were not stock. Anyway, there sure is a lot of extra stuff in the initial load!
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Old 05-23-2013, 02:18 PM   #7978
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Interesting - I thought for sure some of those vehicles were not stock. Anyway, there sure is a lot of extra stuff in the initial load!
I'd bet that they've added stuff as time goes on. I received the unit early in April so it's pretty new. Interestingly enough most all of the files on the unit at the time I received it had no timestamps in their directory listings.

If anyone's interested, the few files that did have timestamps... The oldest was "fs_image.ver" dated 5 Apr '12. Most of the rest, several .gsf files were dated 19 & 20 Jan '13.
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Old 05-23-2013, 03:58 PM   #7980
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I got off the phone with Garmin tech support with a lesson learned... Don't delete items from your Garmin Montana without backing them up first. Then they told me that the unit will now work great as a paper weight, or I could return it to the retailer that I purchased it from for a new one. So off to Touratech Seattle I went with the broken GPS in hand. They swapped it out somewhat reluctantly.

Now I have a brand new unit, fresh out of the box. I'll copy all the system files that are on the unit to my external drive when I get home.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!
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