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Old 06-20-2013, 09:38 AM   #29851
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My highwall is a 4 digit, flat spring gun made around 1887. Original 32-20.

The rolling block is a 44-77 made in 1878. .446 cal, with a larger case than the 45.70.

The Ruger #3 45-70 only weighs about 6.5 lb and loaded to max will make you cry after about 10 rounds.
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:48 AM   #29852
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My highwall is a 4 digit, flat spring gun made around 1887. Original 32-20.

The rolling block is a 44-77 made in 1878. .446 cal, with a larger case than the 45.70.

The Ruger #3 45-70 only weighs about 6.5 lb and loaded to max will make you cry after about 10 rounds.
Very cool. Not the crying part you understand. I know what that's about. My brother likes to load hot 45-70's and watch people cry when shooting them. He's a sick bastard.
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:51 AM   #29853
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Set triggers have been around for a while. My circa 1880 Ballard has one. 1 up from the bottom.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:26 AM   #29854
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Yours are prettier than mine. Tell me about the Ballard.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:58 AM   #29855
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Yours are prettier than mine. Tell me about the Ballard.
The Ballard started life as a standard #9 Union Hill, made in 1883. It was setup as a black powder cartridge rifle (BPCR) competition gun by Ron Long before I purchased it. It has a .45-70 Ron Long barrel with Montana Vintage globe front (with spirit level) and long-range Soule rear sight with a Hadley eye cup. Ron also replaced the original single trigger with an original Ballard #8 double set trigger. I got it in the early '90s. I had the action charcoal case color hardened by the Ballard factory in Cody, Wyoming. Interestingly, Ron Long was working there at that time and enjoyed seeing the rifle again. I had also got a gorgeous block of wood with it and had that stock made (saved the original stock, of course). I cast my own 505gr bullets and loaded with Goex black powder. It shot well under a MOA and was a wonderful competition shooter. Unfortunately, I sold it in a moment of weakness several years ago to someone who wanted it more than I did after I drifted away from shooting competitions. I'm still black and blue from kicking myself for that decision.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:19 AM   #29856
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Those are simply beautiful. I want that Ballard.
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Old 06-20-2013, 03:10 PM   #29857
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My uncle has a couple of bench-rest rifles with 2oz triggers. Everyone's first experience with one of those seems to go the same way.

"Before you close the bolt, remember that it's a light trigger. Keep your finger out of the guard until your absolutely ready."

Cha-click, the bolt closes and fat-finger Freddy moves his shooting hand into position.

BOOM!

"OW!"

"I told ya."
I had a target rifle with a 6 oz trigger and I could never get the results that I can with a 2.5# trigger. The muscle twitches caused by changing from extensor muscles to flexors are more pronounced than adding slightly more stress to flexors in my case.
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Old 06-20-2013, 05:20 PM   #29858
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I had a target rifle with a 6 oz trigger and I could never get the results that I can with a 2.5# trigger. The muscle twitches caused by changing from extensor muscles to flexors are more pronounced than adding slightly more stress to flexors in my case.
I used to aim the rifle while it was bags, shoulder it, close the bolt and put my finger on the trigger guard. Then I'd slowly move my finger back until I could feel trigger contact. Once there, I would just sort of roll my finger on the guard until I got the bang.

I'm sure bench-rest shooters could critique my home-brewed method, but I was just popping squirrels at 300yd, not gunning for 0.013" groups.

My current rimfire match rifles are in the 3# range and I like that a bit better since we shoot from so many positions.
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Old 06-20-2013, 05:49 PM   #29859
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:08 PM   #29860
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Quigley kicks ass, and he's on Netflix right now. Looks like I'm gonna hafta go watch it again. Crap, no rifle smilie.
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:29 PM   #29861
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An old Sauer 44 mag, imported by Herters back in the day...


I actually drew the target before I shot that group earlier today.
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:27 AM   #29862
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An old Sauer 44 mag, imported by Herters back in the day...


I actually drew the target before I shot that group earlier today.
I'd poke fun at your artistic abilities but with that grouping I'll just keep quiet. Haha
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:03 AM   #29863
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An old Sauer 44 mag, imported by Herters back in the day...


I actually drew the target before I shot that group earlier today.
I have one of those, but in .357. Herter's had a proprietary cartridge called the .401 Powermag, and they chambered for that one as well.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:07 AM   #29864
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I have one of those, but in .357. Herter's had a proprietary cartridge called the .401 Powermag, and they chambered for that one as well.
I'll bet that .357 is nice, too. If I could find one of those I might buy it. The .44 Herters is a nice handgun. Very well built and accurate.

Lee Martin's article on these guns is the classic reference source:
http://www.singleactions.com/HERTERPOWERMAGS.pdf
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:16 AM   #29865
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I'll bet that .357 is nice, too. If I could find one of those I might buy it. The .44 Herters is a nice handgun. Very well built and accurate.
Old man Herter was kind of unusual. He sold a lot of kits to fiberglass the bottom of wooden boats and all kinds of hunting and camping gear.

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