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Old 06-20-2013, 10:01 PM   #9406
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Hi there guys,

I just picked up the soft luggage rack from Rally Raid:

http://www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/...wolfman-coyote

I'm just wondering if anyone knows of any exhausts that CAN'T be used. I'm thinking of the Wings exhaust personally but am open to suggestions.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:19 PM   #9407
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Hey guys
Thinking of dumping my 06 drz400s for a 690. What do you guys think honestly? Is this 690 worth the big price tag? What are its advantages? Disadvantages? Must do mods?
+ WP suspension
+ Brembo brakes
+ reliable, smooth LC4
+ broad aftermarket (larger tanks, rally fairings, etc.)
+ Enduro conversion to motard/SMC fairly easy

- poor subframe design/implementation (can be supported with aftermarket luggage racks)
- EFI could be better (can be largely fixed with TuneECU)
- no ABS
- fuel pump issues (see wiki; replace with CA Cycleworks pump)

Must do mods (imo):
* more comfortable seat
* Rally Raid UK Subframe Tank Mounting Bolts
* Rally Raid UK Lower Tank Mount Kit
* upgraded rear shock collar (options are Super Plus Suspension or Rally Raid UK)
* check fuel filter/replace fuel filter
* keep a replacement fuel pump handy
* EDIT: fork bleeder valve

Lots of info here in this thread but also we're starting to put it all together on the 690info wiki.

http://ktm690.info/index.php/Main_Page
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:36 PM   #9408
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+ WP suspension
+ Brembo brakes
+ reliable, smooth LC4
+ broad aftermarket (larger tanks, rally fairings, etc.)
+ Enduro conversion to motard/SMC fairly easy

- poor subframe design/implementation (can be supported with aftermarket luggage racks)
- EFI could be better (can be largely fixed with TuneECU)
- no ABS
- fuel pump issues (see wiki; replace with CA Cycleworks pump)

Must do mods (imo):
* more comfortable seat
* Rally Raid UK Subframe Tank Mounting Bolts
* Rally Raid UK Lower Tank Mount Kit
* upgraded rear shock collar (options are Super Plus Suspension or Rally Raid UK)
* check fuel filter/replace fuel filter
* keep a replacement fuel pump handy

Lots of info here in this thread but also we're starting to put it all together on the 690info wiki.

http://ktm690.info/index.php/Main_Page
I don't believe the EFI to be poor ...

And why on earth would you want ABS on a dirt bike ... ?

I haven't yet seen a need to upgrade the rear shock collar, replace the fuel filter or worry about the fuel pump - these things have all happened to some people in some circumstances, and if you're going around the world then it would pay to think about them - otherwise, just ride the bike ...

The seat will kill you on longer trips ...
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:44 PM   #9409
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Hi there guys,

I just picked up the soft luggage rack from Rally Raid:

http://www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/...wolfman-coyote

I'm just wondering if anyone knows of any exhausts that CAN'T be used. I'm thinking of the Wings exhaust personally but am open to suggestions.
I just recently put a wings on. It sounds great. Really well built. We are going to have to get together for a ride, I've been interested in those racks it would be nice to see them in real life!

Cheers J.
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Old 06-20-2013, 10:57 PM   #9410
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I don't believe the EFI to be poor ...

And why on earth would you want ABS on a dirt bike ... ?
Some people complain about the EFI being lean from the factory for emissions, which makes the cans hot, etc. Some EFI bikes have no issues at all. The 690 is not issue-free when it comes to the EFI, especially if you are changing exhausts, etc.

If you think of the 690E as a big dirt bike, then agreed, ABS is unnecessary.

If you think of the 690E as an ADV bike, then ABS would be nice to have. I suppose it all depends on how you use the bike, what speeds and roads you are on.
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Old 06-20-2013, 11:48 PM   #9411
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Some people complain about the EFI being lean from the factory for emissions, which makes the cans hot, etc. Some EFI bikes have no issues at all. The 690 is not issue-free when it comes to the EFI, especially if you are changing exhausts, etc.

If you think of the 690E as a big dirt bike, then agreed, ABS is unnecessary.

If you think of the 690E as an ADV bike, then ABS would be nice to have. I suppose it all depends on how you use the bike, what speeds and roads you are on.
The 690 is sold as an enduro (rightly or wrongly) - regardless of what one might think of it as. I'd prefer better seat and bigger tank before ABS. EFI -when mapped correctly to match the exhaust/air filter and running on quality fuel seems to work fine.
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Old 06-21-2013, 01:03 AM   #9412
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With all due respect to the notion of "dual-sport" and "Adventure" being helpful prefixes to the word "bike" or "motorcycle"....I am of the belief that any bike would fit such a description....as it is the rider's attitude that determines what type of bike it is.

The rest is marketing hype.

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Old 06-21-2013, 05:45 AM   #9413
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With all due respect to the notion of "dual-sport" and "Adventure" being helpful prefixes to the word "bike" or "motorcycle"....I am of the belief that any bike would fit such a description....as it is the rider's attitude that determines what type of bike it is.

The rest is marketing hype.

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au contraire, a 340 lbs bike can make joe average feel like a hero in the desert, i miss my 530 sometimes
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:47 AM   #9414
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Hey guys
Thinking of dumping my 06 drz400s for a 690. What do you guys think honestly? Is this 690 worth the big price tag? What are its advantages? Disadvantages? Must do mods? Thanks for any help in advance
Picture your DRZ with twice the power, six gears, good suspension, and quality brakes... 690
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Old 06-21-2013, 05:57 AM   #9415
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Hey guys
Thinking of dumping my 06 drz400s for a 690. What do you guys think honestly? Is this 690 worth the big price tag? What are its advantages? Disadvantages? Must do mods? Thanks for any help in advance
Like many I suppose, I went from a DRZ to a 690. I had a 39mm FCR and a Yoshimura Rs2. We had some great times together. The 690 feels like a DRZ improved in every way to me.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:00 AM   #9416
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Like many I suppose, I went from a DRZ to a 690. I had a 39mm FCR and a Yoshimura Rs2. We had some great times together. The 690 feels like a DRZ improved in every way to me.
I had a 950 Adventure and a DRZ prior to the Husaberg and 690 that I have now. The DRZ feels just like a 690 in the same way that a 1971 Land rover Series III feels like a 2013 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.
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Old 06-21-2013, 08:55 AM   #9417
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so you guys are saying I should dump the drz then........the 690 is so expensive though......drz is easy on the wallet
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:17 AM   #9418
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so you guys are saying I should dump the drz then........the 690 is so expensive though......drz is easy on the wallet
Then enjoy the DRZ while you save money for a 690 in the future?
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Old 06-21-2013, 09:52 AM   #9419
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We might be biased

I like my 690; it does everything I want it to do and weighs the same as the DRZ 400. Yes it's more expensive, but most other bikes in it's engine class and that are near it in power output are usually 80-100 lbs heavier. You can't easily remove 80 lbs from a bike like a F650 Sertao or a KLR.

So the the 2012 $9,600 I paid for my 690 is for a bike that makes more power than others in it's engine class, is a bit smoother running (from my experience), and has the lowest weight in it's engine class. Those are all things that aftermarket can't really address, so for me it was worth the price premium.

That being said aftermarket parts and OEM parts for the 690 are quite expensive, the bike is expensive, BUT there's not much else out there that can really compare this against due to the specs.


Another thing I always like to mention is my 2012 690 enduro makes more horsepower than my old 650 v-strom and weighs about 160 lbs less, and has the suspension and handling characteristics to hit the quad/single track in the mountains after riding across the state on the interstate at 75 mph.
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Old 06-21-2013, 10:33 AM   #9420
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~23.8-26 celsius (75-80 Fahrenheit). Heavy stop and go traffic the radiator fan was running almost constantly. I filled all three tanks on the bike that morning and had about 30 miles on them. After about 50 minutes riding through stop and go traffic gas was leaking out of the right RR tank vent and cap. The cap was installed tightly.


I'm running the stock header pipe with an FMF Q4 slip o with an EVO-1 airbox and FI map. 2012 690 Enduro at 1830m elevation (6000ft.)
I'm also forgetting 10th grade science but being at 6,000' ASL would significantly lower the temp at which gas boils no?
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