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Old 10-14-2012, 07:11 PM   #46
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Can you post a pic of this Heinkel? I think these are the Holy Grail and Golden era of scoots. Maicos too . . .
If you ever want to sell the mighty Heinkel , PM me ?

The most gorgeous sheet metal work in the history of bikes

I am not allowed to post pictures. Not even my avatar is visible! When I can, I will. I have a 1960 A2 and a 1965 A2 Schwinge. Driving these Heinkels for 40 years now.
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:39 PM   #47
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I rode my California Scooter (it's a 150cc motorcycle) the length of the Baja peninsula and back (about 2200 miles). It was great. You can read that trip report here: http://www.motofoto.cc/california_sc...quer_baja!.htm

Aren't California Scooter Company bikes really small motorcycles, similar to the old Mustang, with true manual transmissions, clutches, and chain drives? They look really cool, but may be to small for my weight. I am still considering the SYM Wolf, which is a 150cc motorcycle with plenty of load carrying capacity. Like the CSC bikes, it looks like it might be difficult to carry much stuff on it. I can get a new Wolf 150 for $3000 OTD.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:04 AM   #48
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I am not allowed to post pictures. Not even my avatar is visible! When I can, I will. I have a 1960 A2 and a 1965 A2 Schwinge. Driving these Heinkels for 40 years now.
Next to a honda scooter from 57 that I posted picture of here they are the coolest scooter ever. It's like a lot of things you more then likely didn't know back then how much of cult following they end with. Luck and being in the right place at the right time.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:55 AM   #49
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Aren't California Scooter Company bikes really small motorcycles, similar to the old Mustang, with true manual transmissions, clutches, and chain drives? They look really cool, but may be to small for my weight. I am still considering the SYM Wolf, which is a 150cc motorcycle with plenty of load carrying capacity. Like the CSC bikes, it looks like it might be difficult to carry much stuff on it. I can get a new Wolf 150 for $3000 OTD.
They are small motorcycles (we called them Scooters because we refer to all motorcycles as "scooters"). You are right - they have clutches, chains, manual transmissions, and they are styled like the old Mustangs. A 1953 Mustang was the basic model for the CSC.

The SYM is a nice motorcycle, too (I love its style). Susan Carpenter of the LA Times did a comparo of the CSC, the SYM, and a Cleveland Cycle Works small motorcycle. You can Google it and find the article; you might want to read it to get her impressions of how the bikes compared.

I am a consultant to CSC, so I have a relationship with the company and I am partial to the CSC bikes. You might watch the CSC blog; occasionally a CSC will go on sale for about $3K. Most of the time they start at $3695. If you can get a SYM OTD for $3K that is a good deal.

Regarding riding on the freeway, I do it all the time. I just stick to the right hand lane, where traffic seems to hold a steady 50 - 55 mph, and my 150 is pretty comfortable and content at those speeds.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:50 PM   #50
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The underboning the world on Symba's and the broken spokes might be the result of some of the roads they found themselves on - African potholes for one. I'd replace the stock Symba tires for any "touring" that might have a little dirt or mud, ribbed tires went out with bell bottoms. Doing so might knock your 105 mpg down to 104 mpg though. The Symba seems to me to have a fair amount of rearward weight bias, even without a load, so I'd recommend a front rack and keep a decent load in that whenever carrying anything on the rear. When picking up the Symba I've seen and sat on the SYM Wolf, didn't ride it it, but it seems as if that might work as well as a Symba too, maybe better. While it isn't exactly always freeway safe the Wolf is freeway legal in many states.
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Old 10-16-2012, 03:57 PM   #51
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What I found on a certain dual sport motorcycle known for wheel issues, is that keeping the tires inflated to the "max" pressure stated on the sidewall definitely helps prevent broken spokes, spokes pulling through the rim, and elongated holes in the hub. Low tire pressure allows the wheels to flex to much, and things begin to wear and eventually break. High pressure in the tires holds the wheel assembly in place better, and results in less flexing. I know high pressure is not good for off road or dirt road riding, due to a loss of traction, but on this particular bike, it can save your wheels. And I've never had any problems controlling the bike like that. But I also ride slow off road, I'm a trail rider, not an MX racer. (not anymore anyway) Low pressure would be better, but you would need stronger wheels. Wheels with straight pull spokes would be best.

Freeway legal is what I need. I have no plans for extended freeway travel on such a small bike, but sometimes you need to ride a short distance on a freeway. I am planning a trip where I will need to ride several miles on a freeway on my Zuma 125. I'm way more afraid of getting stopped by a cop than getting run over. Neither motor driven cycles nor pedestrians are allowed on the freeway, so not only would I get a ticket, but the cop would probably call a tow truck to pick up me and the scooter, at my expense. Being freeway legal would prevent a scenario like that and allow me to concentrate on the traffic instead of being paranoid about cops.
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Old 06-24-2013, 04:55 PM   #52
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Jerry, did you ever get to take your trip?
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Old 06-24-2013, 11:59 PM   #53
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Jerry, did you ever get to take your trip?
Not yet, but I am retiring next March 30, next year, and should have plenty of riding time then.
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Old 06-25-2013, 06:45 AM   #54
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I've done 5500 Interstate miles on my Kymco GTi300 in the last 30 days. Pretty impressive motorcycle actually. It makes enough power to get the job done with ease.

Can't help you with the under 150 though. Never done it.
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Old 06-29-2013, 06:59 PM   #55
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Here's the link to that RR: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=460631

Here's a guy who rode from Michigan to CA on a 50cc Yamaha scooter last year: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=694448

How about two guys riding Buddies ( 125cc and 150cc) from Arizona to Canada and back: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...6#post15984186
I ran across a guy riding from Michigan to California on a 50cc last May.

This guy truly packed light.












The orange vest was given to him by a cop in Nebraska. Holding it on was a pair of zip-cuffs.
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Old 06-29-2013, 07:58 PM   #56
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A few years ago, a guy named Wan rode a 50cc Ruckus 18,000 miles around the US in 6 months.

I love those kind of adventures!

Here is the link to the Total Ruckus site that talks about his trip:
http://totalruckus.com/phpBB3/viewto...daca067f4c7546
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Freeway Legal?

Talking legalities here, not "smarts."

With some minor googling California is the only place that I've come up with a displacement minimum (150cc) for riding on the Freeway (Interstate). Many states have laws against "motorized bicycles" on the Freeway which encompasses 50cc scoots. But I'm not finding a national trend mandating 150cc over 125cc. Am I missing something? What are the laws in various state?

PS-- I'm say legalities, not smarts-- I think most here would like to avoid freeways like the plague on smaller 60mph max scoots. But, as has been pointed out that isn't alway possible. As an example to get from Albuquerque to Santa Fe requires Interstate riding, or a massive re-route.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:28 PM   #58
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Freeway Legal?

Talking legalities here, not "smarts."

With some minor googling California is the only place that I've come up with a displacement minimum (150cc) for riding on the Freeway (Interstate). Many states have laws against "motorized bicycles" on the Freeway which encompasses 50cc scoots. But I'm not finding a national trend mandating 150cc over 125cc. Am I missing something? What are the laws in various state?

PS-- I'm say legalities, not smarts-- I think most here would like to avoid freeways like the plague on smaller 60mph max scoots. But, as has been pointed out that isn't alway possible. As an example to get from Albuquerque to Santa Fe requires Interstate riding, or a massive re-route.
Were I live if it can do 45 mph then its legal but I think you ll get pull over for driving to slow.
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:41 PM   #59
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My CSC 150 (California Scooter) tops out at around 66 mph. I drive on the freeway all the time. Even here in the land of nutty drivers and cell phones and folks running 80+ mph on the freeways, the right lane generally runs at around 50 to 55 mph. I just mostly stick to the right lane and I do just fine.

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Old 06-30-2013, 12:24 AM   #60
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What I really need instead of a larger scooter (I don't want a maxi) is a route across the country. I have read many ride reports from people who have done this on small scooters, and they never did have a route. I tried to get Wan's route over on totalruckus.com, but could only get small parts of it. Many of the backroads are not on maps. Trying to piece together a route is very frustrating, I keep running into dead ends, or places where the route runs concurrently with a freeway for many miles. It seems that with as many people that have done it, there would be more information on the routes they took. I did find several bicycle routes, but they included a lot of freeway shoulders, where motor vehicles are not allowed. Many AZ interstates allow bicycles to be ridden on the shoulder. The reason for that is because there really is no other practical route that lets you avoid the freeways altogether.
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