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Old 07-06-2013, 12:00 PM   #361
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My point is that none of these people are social workers. Their compensation defines them.
I absolutely agree that these people aren't social workers. Where you and I disagree is on the form of payment they demand. In my view, money is secondary, a substitute for status, and will be sacrificed for glory 99 times out of 100.
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Old 07-06-2013, 05:37 PM   #362
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The person who told me that is in a position to know, but he is also in a position to want information to be spun a particular way. I believe him, but I wonder why he felt the need to tell me.

The way it was told to me, I understood to mean that he was being paid a salary by Dorna. Makes sense.
the way motogp is structured you could say all the major riders are paid a salary by dorna
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Old 07-07-2013, 04:31 AM   #363
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I absolutely agree that these people aren't social workers. Where you and I disagree is on the form of payment they demand. In my view, money is secondary, a substitute for status, and will be sacrificed for glory 99 times out of 100.
My opinion is that status and money are inseparable.
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Old 07-07-2013, 05:26 AM   #364
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Ref Rossi,

he's paid his tax fines, got his yacht(s) , ferrari's, etc etc enough in the bank to whatever he wants and yet on his weekend off he is racing with friends , peers etc.

I reckon the guy would race for absolutely nothing. Would he get enough through endorsements yep he would. Millions.

He sits in business class in aircraft where first class is available and reads friggin motobike magazines in a hoody with his mates sippin a beer.

My personal opinion is that he is not money driven.......anymore, (he may have been but i think he simply loves the industry). The smart-ass goofey kid who loves to pull a fast one on his mates, he's gotten older but never grown up so to speak.

If MotoGP ceased to exist tomorrow, he would still race, even lawnmowers.

The above is a personal opinion and not meant to aggrevate anyone in this community.
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Old 07-07-2013, 06:30 AM   #365
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Rossi is one of those guys that genuinely appears to love the sport. Kinda "can you believe they pay me to have this much fun?" attitude. I believe that is a big portion, along with his success of course, to his popularity.

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Old 07-08-2013, 03:26 AM   #366
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My opinion is that status and money are inseparable.
There is a lot of research in behavioral psychology to indicate that the two are not inseparable. The most obvious example is the experiment where people are asked if they would like to have $20 and have someone else have $25, or have $15 and someone else have $10. The vast majority go for $15.

But as someone else has pointed out, this belongs more in CS&M than in Racing.

I will say that it is my impression that money is a secondary consideration to the elite athletes in the MotoGP paddock. There are a number of them who could be earning a lot more than they are if they were to switch to WSBK, but they prefer to remain in MotoGP.
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Dennis Noyes weighs in on the foolhardiness of Lorenzo's decision to race:

http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...rgeons-advice/
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Old 07-09-2013, 06:18 AM   #368
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Dennis Noyes weighs in on the foolhardiness of Lorenzo's decision to race:

http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...rgeons-advice/
Great article. Thanks.

I've opened a discussion of it on the Yoop 2013 thread, where it might see more eyeballs.
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