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Old 07-08-2013, 12:16 PM   #1
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Q: Ideal Weight distribution for Tug/Tub?

What is the ideal weight distribution between the Tug and Tub?
I have myself as the pilot at 200lbs, the chair monkey at 200lbs and a pillion passenger at 100lbs.
On top of this I have about 70lbs of gear that needs to be distributed?
Thanks for your insight and inevitable comments....
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:05 PM   #2
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Weight should be within the 'Triangle of Safety' for safest and best location.

Triangle in plan form (viewed from above) formed along bike centre line from front spindle to rear spindle and from front & rear spindle to sidecar wheel spindle.

That`s the utopian ideal,but it`s never exactly that.

Just try to spread it evenly and defo avoid heavy loading on the front of the chair if you`ve got a nose rack...I just put bulky but light stuff like sleeping bags and ground mats on the front.

Really weighty stuff goes in soft throwover panniers between the tractor seats on my Urals.

Other stuff on the rear rack and in the sidecar boot,trying to keep the heavier items nearer the front of the rack or boot than at the back where its totally outside the 'Triangle'.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:16 PM   #3
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What is the ideal weight distribution between the Tug and Tub?
I have myself as the pilot at 200lbs, the chair monkey at 200lbs and a pillion passenger at 100lbs.
On top of this I have about 70lbs of gear that needs to be distributed?
Thanks for your insight and inevitable comments....
See this from another thread on this forum.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=54

You don't say what kind or size sidecar you have. I think a pillion passenger is a recipe for disaster in most cases.
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Old 07-08-2013, 06:35 PM   #4
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I have myself as the pilot at 200lbs, the chair monkey at 200lbs and a pillion passenger at 100lbs.
On the bike you have 300 lbs straddling the tip over line between the front and rear wheel. That line comes into play on turns toward the sidecar. Load your saddlebags with that in mind.

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Old 07-08-2013, 11:18 PM   #5
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Good advice

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Weight should be within the 'Triangle of Safety' for safest and best location.

Triangle in plan form (viewed from above) formed along bike centre line from front spindle to rear spindle and from front & rear spindle to sidecar wheel spindle.

That`s the utopian ideal,but it`s never exactly that.

Just try to spread it evenly and defo avoid heavy loading on the front of the chair if you`ve got a nose rack...I just put bulky but light stuff like sleeping bags and ground mats on the front.

Really weighty stuff goes in soft throwover panniers between the tractor seats on my Urals.

Other stuff on the rear rack and in the sidecar boot,trying to keep the heavier items nearer the front of the rack or boot than at the back where its totally outside the 'Triangle'.
Thanks Tarka,
I figured this would be the way to go, but appreciate the 'triangle of safety' definition.
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Old 07-09-2013, 05:29 PM   #6
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No disaster recipe here. I checked your profile and see you have a BMW 1200 GSA with a EZS RX5 Roadster, a very substantial rig. I have an EZS RX5 conversion on a Honda ST1100. Even though it's a 1 1/2 wide sidecar if you can't get both passengers in it your seating arrangement would be correct providing your small pillion passenger has some grab rails to hold on to, side forces can be quite strong in tightening sweepers. I'd keep that 70 lbs of luggage in the sidecar trunk up close to the seatback. Leave the panniers for the real light stuff.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:11 PM   #7
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No disaster recipe here. I checked your profile and see you have a BMW 1200 GSA with a EZS RX5 Roadster, a very substantial rig. I have an EZS RX5 conversion on a Honda ST1100. Even though it's a 1 1/2 wide sidecar if you can't get both passengers in it your seating arrangement would be correct providing your small pillion passenger has some grab rails to hold on to, side forces can be quite strong in tightening sweepers. I'd keep that 70 lbs of luggage in the sidecar trunk up close to the seatback. Leave the panniers for the real light stuff.

Thanks for the reassuring words of advice, Sidewise. I planned on stuffing the sleeping bags in the side cases and leaving the other gear for the trunk.
Cheers!
Looking forward to hitting the road and heading to Salem next week for the MOA Rally.
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