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Old 07-19-2013, 07:00 AM   #19036
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in feb 28 2012 i called 4 dealers on the fone and asked what is their best cash price on a new bike. mar 1 i was at the lowest and put a bike on my trailer for 13,100. 14037 OTD. took me 15 minutes in fone calls and 30 minutes at the dealer with the best price
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:50 AM   #19037
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I came in just under 13k otd including a 4 year YES plan. This was from Miller's Yamaha in Lamont Furnace, PA. This was last Feb.
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:53 AM   #19038
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I came in just under 13k otd including a 4 year YES plan. This was from Miller's Yamaha in Lamont Furnace, PA. This was last Feb.
thats nice

i got my yes plan for $380. my dealer matched the internet price. purchased a week before factory plan expired. no reason to buy day one, easier to get a better deal in the future
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:58 AM   #19039
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Refresh my memory.

Was the 2012 MSRP $13,999 or was that the pre-order MSRP and the ACTUAL MSRP was $14,499? Or maybe $13,999 was MSRP and the pre-order was $13,499?

I definitely remember Yamaha having a different MSRP for those that pre-ordered and those that waited to see how awesome the bike was.

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I believe that $13,999 was the pre-order MSRP price. I ordered mine the first day of the pre-order for $12,400.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:45 AM   #19040
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I believe that $13,999 was the pre-order MSRP price. I ordered mine the first day of the pre-order for $12,400.
$13,900 was the PDP price. When the dealers could later order the 2012's. the MSRP was $14,500. The 2013 MSRP is $14,790.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:10 AM   #19041
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Refresh my memory.

Was the 2012 MSRP $13,999 or was that the pre-order MSRP and the ACTUAL MSRP was $14,499? Or maybe $13,999 was MSRP and the pre-order was $13,499?

I definitely remember Yamaha having a different MSRP for those that pre-ordered and those that waited to see how awesome the bike was.

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I believe we got 500 off for ordering early. I could go back and check, but I'm too lazy.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:22 AM   #19042
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Fred is correct, the msrp was 13900 on the 12.
I paid 12 plus title and license. No tax be cause I did a run through.

At 12 the dealer was not loosing money or he would not have done it.

There are factory incentives for the dealer at the end of the year and other incentives that can bring his cost down.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:44 AM   #19043
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Let's hear 'em...

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...There are factory incentives for the dealer at the end of the year and other incentives that can bring his cost down.

Please enlighten us, Japako... Details if you don't mind. The more the better.

I hadn't realized you were ever a dealer.

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Old 07-19-2013, 11:14 AM   #19044
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Please enlighten us, Japako... Details if you don't mind. The more the better.

I hadn't realized you were ever a dealer.

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Old 07-19-2013, 11:25 AM   #19045
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That should keep Dallara busy for a while.


Oh, I can wait to hear his illuminating insights...

Especially the part where he tells us how dealers might sell something in January and then wait all the way until the following December to get any "incentive"... Never mind about the time/value of money, etc.

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Old 07-19-2013, 11:31 AM   #19046
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That should keep Dallara busy for a while.
Always calm. He's on ignore anyway.
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Old 07-19-2013, 11:34 AM   #19047
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I totally understand that, but I'm sure the dealer isn't going to lose money selling me a bike. They wouldn't stay in business very long on that model. I figure if I have a price I want to pay and they have a price they want to sell at, if the two don't meet then no deal. We're all grown ups and can make decisions. I can assure you that I'm not going to pay a penny extra so a dealer can stay in business. That's not my problem, it's theirs.
Dealers make their money on all the crap they sale in the store and the services they provide for all of us riders. They wouldn't stay in business if all they relied on was the sale of the bikes. Well for my area that is what I have come to understand.

The dealer here told me they make little to no profit, (yes they could smudge the truth at times) on the bikes especially when i asked to drop a 2012 down to 12.9 and he said he could not do it. I have been looking at the bike and putting in offers since Feb 2012, plus dropping a ton of money on farkle parts, apparel and other services for my other bike so I felt I have established a good relationship with this owner of the shop as I go the rounds with him every time I went in. I would discuss the Super T and go over numbers. The bike was sitting on the floor since Dec 2011.
I was looking at a used 2012 for 12.5 with 700 miles In Feb 2012.
I would return to the dealer who told me that he really needed to get rid of the bike since it had been sitting there way too long but he said he would actually be in the red if he went to 12.9.

So now he still has the 2012 and a grey 2013 on the floor. The 2012 is still tagged at 13.6.

And I have 3 or 4 months of wonderful riding time on mine...yaa hoo.
Great bike!
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:16 PM   #19048
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You say this, but you offered the dealer HIS COST on the product. That IS LOSING MONEY! The salesman needed to get paid, the lights needed to be on, they needed the roof to store the bike under, etc, etc, etc.

If this dealer is "local" to you, why are you beating on him over the phone? Walk in the door with a pile of cash and be a REAL buyer. Ride out on your new motorcycle.

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It's only losing money if he ACCEPTS my offer. That's his choice. Why in the world would I pay more than I have to to get the bike I want? I am not responsible for the dealer's success. He is. I expect the dealer to make a profit and if he can't at my offer, then I go somewhere else or change my offer. That is how the world works. He isn't obligated to accept my offer and I'm not obligated to pay his price. I've bought a motorcycle from this dealer in the past...we agreed on a price that I was happy with and that the dealer was happy with. I've had my bikes serviced at this dealer. Again, we agreed on a mutually acceptable price and the transaction occurred, otherwise there would have been no transaction. I don't understand the confusion with that concept.
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:25 PM   #19049
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Question Is that calmly squirrely or calmly wrong?

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Always calm. He's on ignore anyway.

Makes it easy for ya' to make erroneous, inaccurate statements about stuff you know nothing about...

Dallara




(and a $1 buck says he's fibbing about the ignore...)

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Old 07-19-2013, 01:02 PM   #19050
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It's not cabin fever so it must be the heat.
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