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Old 07-18-2013, 07:18 AM   #17581
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OLDXR - thanks for the input and good to have company on this one.

The bike was running rich on much of the trip since I went from sea level where it's jetted to 5,000 - 7000+ feet for most of the trip, and it did use more oil once it returned to sea level which would explain usage in last 150 miles of trip on slab (probably half of the oil use or 5ish ounces). I want it dialed well before hand for Baja. I suspect I can pull the head and have a look, then just take the head in for the new valves and related parts.
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Old 07-18-2013, 08:40 AM   #17582
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Hi, I need to increase the lenght of the brake pedal (not the total lenght but the surface where I push with my boot) Any suggestion to reach a good result ?
The tip is steel, might have to fabricate the mounting portion longer...
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:31 PM   #17583
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Originally Posted by OR Trail View Post
In the month I have owned the '03 XR650R it has gone on 2 big rides. It's stock and uncorked, and the head has never been off the bike per the previous owner. The first was a bit of dirt followed by a long highway day - total approx 650 miles. Exhaust valves were tight, especially the right side. I put them in spec.

Second ride was 350 mi of highway each way, with 2 days of high desert, high speed dirt roads and fire lookout climbs. 950 - 1000 mi total. Exhaust valves both tight on back end of trip.

Its nearing the end of the adjustment range on the exhaust valves. It has maybe 2 - 3 more adjustment cycles like this left in the range. Intakes always in spec and have not moved.

Also, it used a bit of oil on the second trip (less than half liter) and not a drop on the 1st - but a big difference. It has a sight tube.

This bike is supposed to be heading to Baja in November on a 2,000 mile run. I don't want to be out of options, so need to get it sorted. I suspect I am headed for new rings and valve guides/seats/??

So what to look at next? I like to do my own work but may need to call in a pro on this one. Any suggestions are appreciated. Bike is in Portland, OR if there are suggestions for XR or thumper specialists. Thinking of calling Ricky at Boss Offroad.

As always, the wisdom of the group is much appreciated.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:19 AM   #17584
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Originally Posted by Shibby! View Post
Going against the grain and going North to South. Then riding as many gravel roads on the return back as we'll be short on time.
The entire ride is fantastic, but between Wallace and Challis it is complete bliss.

I wish I could offer to be a resource when you get south of Pocatello, but I'll be on the Washington Backcountry Discovery Route during the time you get to the end of the Tour of Idaho.

Good luck, Shibby! The whole thing is very doable (well, not that I've ever completed it myself), it's just tough to do that many miles in a week for someone who isn't a fast rider like myself. I think the roughest parts were the first 50 miles from the Utah border.

I don't know what the changes there are in the current route from how it ran a few years ago, but assuming it's the same I have an idea to suggest for the PPowell Ranger Station/Lochsa Lodge area.

Heading north to south, as you get down by the Missoula area where the route turns west and goes along the Lolo Motorway, there is an option to drop out down to Lochsa Lodge where they have small cabins to rent, camping sites (I think), a pretty good restaurant, a small convenience store and fuel.

If your schedule has you spending the night in that area, there is a camping spot a few miles up the paved road (Hwy 12). There is a huge clearing right off the side of the road, but it isn't noticable from the road. All you'll notice is a small dirt road, but as you turn off on that dirt road you'll immediately see the camp area to your left. The dirt road easily connects back with the TID route, so you don't even need to hit pavement again in the morning.

Here's a picture of the area:

Lolo Hotsprings is just a few miles further up the road.

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Old 07-19-2013, 11:57 AM   #17585
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Thanks for the info!

I've yet to perfect (or get anywhere near good GPX files) for the trip. I got the tracks from some nice user on here, implemented all the challenge points, and will be going over and trying to put private / non state campgrounds along the way.

We're good to ride from morning till night day after day. We did this on the CDT for 2.5 weeks straight. We're not good at getting up early though. I believe this will be our biggest challenge. No only the 1430 miles offroad in a week, but we have to ride nearly that distance back to the trucks in a couple days!

Should be fun. No doubt filled with big ups and downs. If our bikes hold together, hopefully our minds and body will as well!

I'll probaby have a bit of a write-up about the trip no matter how it turns out.

Got the front wheel off my buddy last night. Will be doing final maintenance on the XRR early next week and packing. Pretty much just an oil change and tire install left to do. My items that need to be packed will be used this weekend as I'm going camping!
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Old 07-19-2013, 12:00 PM   #17586
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does anyone have a picture of the underside of the rocker cover for the xrr?

For some reason, I'm having a terrible time with this. Got an ungodly metallic clanking noise (just replaced crank), but it's definitely coming from the head. Another thing I noticed is my manual decompression lever on the rocker cover sits much much higher than it used to (so much so that the cable doesnt have enough adjustment. My left side exhaust rocker adjustment screw is also sitting much higher than the right to achieve the proper .008" clearance.

Something ain't right here, but I can't figure it out. the one way clutch on the auto-decompressor only spins one way. It seems to stay in place when the cam is rotated, but the auto-decompressor lobe doesnt seem to move much, up or down when I try and move it by hand.

Any ideas? I really feel it's a decompressor issue, somewhere. It's just bizzare that the manual lever is so far off...
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Old 07-19-2013, 03:00 PM   #17587
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Alright here is some more stuff... First is a video of the cam and auto decompressor. Is this play normal? seems awfully sloppy.

Showing the position of the adjustment screws on the exhaust valves.

showing the position of the manual decomp lever when it first touches the rocker. seems very high to me.

NOT my bike. Used for reference of the decomp lever.

another of the set screws.

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Old 07-19-2013, 05:58 PM   #17588
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I'm changing the water pump on my BRP today. I'll be using the Honda HP coolant as recommended by Honda. Is there any reason I shouldn't pour in a little water wetter along with the coolant (wear on seals, etc.)?
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Old 07-19-2013, 07:51 PM   #17589
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Me and my son head of tomorrow for 5,500 miles of outback
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:28 PM   #17590
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Safe travels!

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Old 07-19-2013, 10:39 PM   #17591
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The riders 19yr old son on his wr250r .....his first big ride

me on the pig bladders on board 3 weeks gear packed and ready to go

we cant wait .....
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:55 PM   #17592
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5,500Km trip


The riders 19yr old son on his wr250r .....his first big ride

me on the pig bladders on board 3 weeks gear packed and ready to go

we cant wait .....

Well done,
Certain it'll be a great experience sharing a common interest with the lad - enjoy.
Have a safe trip and looking forward to lots of pics as inspiration for us desk jockies.

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(Chain looks a little tight? possibly the viewing angle)

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Old 07-20-2013, 02:11 AM   #17593
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There is a lot of free play in the decomp lever as normal.
I have heard of them jamming / seizing a little and not returning to the normal
There is a return spring on the decomp too, check to see if it is not broken.

The loud clunk can be the auto decomp working if your idle is set to low,
clunk then stall normally.

The play on the camshaft is normal.
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Old 07-20-2013, 05:29 AM   #17594
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So I took the XR out for the 1st time Wednesday. Had some awesome fun hitting about 250 miles of single track, two track, atv trails, and gravel roads. On the way home, Something in the motor broke... All of the sudden I lost compression and then clunk, CLUNK, CLUNK, CLUNK!!! Piston slap galore. I need to now tear into the motor to see what failed. Aren't these bikes supposed to be built for baja1000? I destroyed it doing Idaho250...
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Old 07-21-2013, 10:24 AM   #17595
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My poor piggy is out of room for adjustment on one intake valve, and starting to blow oil into the air intake through the crankcase breather. So time to give her some love, i want to replace all valves and everything that goes with that, + piston, rings, And re nikasil the bore , maybe new rocker arms and timing chain and such, i am mechanically inclined but ive never taken a dirtbike apart before . Does anyone have any suggestions for me. I will Definitely be posting pictures once i start taking it apart, oh and i want to keep everything stock except for kibblewhite valves and componets, if i find out it is even stock once i get into it

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