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Old 07-24-2013, 06:58 AM   #30031
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Back in the day...

Yes the track is tough. I think that's why the sprinters look like middle linebackers more than the Tim Burton characters we see in the grand tours.
Huge effort, you learn to relax on the real track by letting go of your legs. Since they are tied to your inertia and move as you move. You can always tell the newbs, they are the folks whose heads are snapped within inches of the stem when they try to freewheel.

I would have puked.
and fallen off the simulator.
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Last night was the third class of the VQ Racing course. This one was designed to mimic velodrome racing, and it was brutal. The previous class was tough, but this one was so grueling that one person simply left halfway through. Two others complained that they might have to vomit. One made almost all the way through, but quit on the final 30 second interval when her legs gave out.

My heart rate was consistently in the 150's, with peaks of 163 BPM. I began to experience what felt like mild stomach cramps after the first 20 minutes, which only got worse toward the end. After an hour of this hell, I had so little strength left in my legs that the only way I could dismount was to slide off the back of the seat. After looking at my results from the first two classes, the coach felt it was time to increase my Functional Power Threshold setting by 10 points. It was a decision I came to regret, and probably should have put off for an "easier" class. Once having commited to it though, I wasn't about to take a step backward. I can take comfort in the fact that my FPT is now just 60 points short of where it needs to be to partake in an actual time trial race, and who knows what the next five weeks will bring.

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Old 07-24-2013, 07:30 AM   #30032
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Interesting take on US cycling from the Dutch

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I lived in Amsterdam for two years. The reason bicycling is so popular there isn't really because Holland is 'bicycle friendly', but because it's 'car un-friendly'. Many of the roads were built centuries ago and weren't designed for automobiles. There is no room for parking by the side of the road, and there are no parking garages. If you need to get around, you walk, ride a bicycle, or a scooter. Lots of streets there are paved with cobblestones. Cobblestones are not nice to ride on, and they're slippery after the rain (it rains constantly in Holland). Winters there are miserable. Ice forms rapidly on surfaces, making two wheeled transportation a risky proposition. During that time of year, people put their bikes away and put on their ice skates. Bike theft is also a big problem. You don't dare leave your bike anywhere it can't be secured to an imovable object because it would be stolen in seconds. A Dutchman would be shocked to see the rows of bicycles parked outside in the US with no locks on them.

Some random photos I took during my last trip to Holland:





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Old 07-24-2013, 08:00 AM   #30033
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Back in the day...

Yes the track is tough. I think that's why the sprinters look like middle linebackers more than the Tim Burton characters we see in the grand tours.
Huge effort, you learn to relax on the real track by letting go of your legs. Since they are tied to your inertia and move as you move. You can always tell the newbs, they are the folks whose heads are snapped within inches of the stem when they try to freewheel.

I would have puked.
and fallen off the simulator.
The problem for me is that the VQ 'Racing' course is the last of an entire series of eight week courses that takes a year to complete. Those earlier courses teach you the fundamentals like hill climbing, power, endurance, etc. Most people in the class have already completed those courses, so they should (in theory) be better prepared than I am. I didn't want to wait another eight weeks until the series started over again, so I signed up for this one. That may have been a mistake, but it's too late to do anything about that now.
One good thing about our class is that the coach is an ex-pro racer. He doesn't tolerate quitters, and if he catches anyone slacking off even a little bit, he'll come right over and yell at them.
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Old 07-24-2013, 08:40 AM   #30034
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Last nights ride.
Man, I felt crappy. Legs felt like they were square or something. Finally got to feeling better on the second to last climb.



I intentionally went easy to ease back into riding, from two days off the bike, but way too many stairs and bending ad lifting when I should not have been lifting.
Might try some hills again tonight. We'll see how I do for getting home on time.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:10 AM   #30035
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The reason bicycling is so popular there isn't really because Holland is 'bicycle friendly', but because it's 'car un-friendly'.

A Dutchman would be shocked to see the rows of bicycles parked outside in the US with no locks on them.
One thing about your postings, always an Aurelius view of things in it.

I did a lot of travel to/within the Netherlands in the '90s and early 2000s, nice place.
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Old 07-24-2013, 09:54 AM   #30036
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There're perils to DIY-ing carbon rims straight from china

The $100+ in spokes I ordered based on the info from the manufacturer?

Useless.



Based on the #s given and plugged into spocalc, I *should* have the right stuff. Key word being *should.*

So far: neither King hubs are matching up to the spoke lengths put out by spocalc. I'm gonna go try some of the D/A hubs on other rims to see if I'm just out $ for spokes.

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Old 07-24-2013, 10:10 AM   #30037
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Got a late start yesterday and decided it was too hot and bailed after an hour. I felt bad about it so I got up early today and tried again. My local climbing route up both forks of the canyon. 8 Minutes faster than last time three weeks ago.

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Old 07-24-2013, 11:27 AM   #30038
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There's your problem! Standing to accelerate on the track is usually counter-productive. Spin faster! (...and yeah, I've BTDT too!)

So there I was... me with 2 teammates in the last race of the night... 50lap ?scratch race? (I don't remember if it was that or a points race)

3 laps to go and there was a slowing in the pack.

So I jumped.

Hard

Got a quarter of a lap. Extended it to half a lap by 2 to go. I got a little further on the bell lap: 2/3rds of a lap up!

I started thinking 'I may just have this!' Got goose bumps.

In the middle of turn 3/4 on the last lap, the entire pack freight trains me and I end up DFL.

Ah well. At least I tried!

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Yeah, desperate times and I was standing like a Canadian Junior! Last board I saw that night was 40 to go.

Anything longer than 20 laps at Marymoor, and I was just riding to survive.
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:33 AM   #30039
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So now I have several semi-built carbon rimmed wheels floating around the garage.

Spokes too short is the common complaint. ...except that last wheel where I tried the spokes from the next rim size shallower. They're too long. I *think* that may be the only rim set that has the right ERD.



I gotta find someone to cut some spokes without buying em from that shop. Wish me luck!

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Old 07-24-2013, 11:47 AM   #30040
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Tour de France

OK, so once again I missed the whole thing because I don't subscribe to any cable sports channels.

Will it be available for purchase on DVD?
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Old 07-24-2013, 11:58 AM   #30041
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OK, so once again I missed the whole thing because I don't subscribe to any cable sports channels.

Will it be available for purchase on DVD?
Probably.

You can also go here and watch the recaps for each stage:

http://www.steephill.tv/tour-de-france/#summary
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:47 PM   #30042
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Gotta tell someone finished my two longest rides to date this weekend.I rode the Keystone MS150 78 miles sat. 75 sun. avg speed 12.9 not including stops.Stops were every 15 miles or so with a lunch stop riders were treated well and lots of food and drinks available.
Got my first road bike a cannondale caad10 3 in may 2012.before that I road railtrails 8-10 miles a ride but not consistently.Once I got the road bike I started riding with a club doing beginer and low C rides of 20-25 miles.My longest was a 60 mile solo last summer.Lately I've been riding club rides 3 times aweek 20 miles or so and once or twice a month a 40-45 miler.
I think I have about 3k onthe caad.
I'm 64 and retired I still get passed by flat bar bikes and heavy younger guys
But I'm enjoying my new hobby.
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Old 07-24-2013, 12:57 PM   #30043
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Cycling is a whole life activity. Welcome to the addiction.

My first MS150 was in Colorado. We rode from South of Denver to the Royal Gorge Bridge in Canyon City. First day was a century that included the Air Force Academy at Colorado Springs. We stopped that evening at Colorado College Football field. It was the year I got out of engineering school having ridden about 300 miles total for the year due to 18 hours of class, working full and part time and looking for a job. I nearly died attacking the first day like I was a teen and actually had some miles in me. Got two leg massages that evening that made it work, but the final climb to the bridge nearly did me.
The next two I was ready for.

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Gotta tell someone finished my two longest rides to date this weekend.I rode the Keystone MS150 78 miles sat. 75 sun. avg speed 12.9 not including stops.Stops were every 15 miles or so with a lunch stop riders were treated well and lots of food and drinks available.
Got my first road bike a cannondale caad10 3 in may 2012.before that I road railtrails 8-10 miles a ride but not consistently.Once I got the road bike I started riding with a club doing beginer and low C rides of 20-25 miles.My longest was a 60 mile solo last summer.Lately I've been riding club rides 3 times aweek 20 miles or so and once or twice a month a 40-45 miler.
I think I have about 3k onthe caad.
I'm 64 and retired I still get passed by flat bar bikes and heavy younger guys
But I'm enjoying my new hobby.
Thanks for reading
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Old 07-24-2013, 01:16 PM   #30044
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Cycling is a whole life activity. Welcome to the addiction.

My first MS150 was in Colorado. We rode from South of Denver to the Royal Gorge Bridge in Canyon City. First day was a century that included the Air Force Academy at Colorado Springs. We stopped that evening at Colorado College Football field. It was the year I got out of engineering school having ridden about 300 miles total for the year due to 18 hours of class, working full and part time and looking for a job. I nearly died attacking the first day like I was a teen and actually had some miles in me. Got two leg massages that evening that made it work, but the final climb to the bridge nearly did me.
The next two I was ready for.
Mr Head,
The two days took its toll I did nothing on monday and I mean nothing hardly got out of the easy chair.Tues. I did a 20 mile easy spin on the rail trail and my legs weree feeling pretty good.Tonight i'm going for a C club ride and may do some light climbing.Actually it's a clydesdale ride which I just qualify for beer drinking after.
Funny how things that never cramped or hurt before or bothered me before
start hurting on the second day
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Old 07-24-2013, 05:03 PM   #30045
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Ordered the cassette today...will be able to try it for the weekend. I had no options as he said Shimano only made one 30T rear. I am going to lose a few ratios,and will only have 1 gear greater than 27- Looks like I'll learn to climb with a 26 or spin my ass off!!
With 9sp and a steel freehub body you can use solo cassettes. So you could get a 30t cog (from Harris Cyclery) and remove one of the other cogs. This won't work on 10sp because the large cog is cantilevered over the hub.... you'd need a cog which had the right offset and no one makes them (Cycle Dynamics did make them from Ti but they stopped).

Shifting with the swapped cog will be slightly worse, but only a little.

You can also try fitting a 33t small ring, which you can also get from Harris. It's just a little lower, about 3%.

IRD makes some 9sp cassettes with larger cogs.
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