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Old 07-27-2013, 06:32 AM   #17971
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Anyone know the symptoms of the "Gear Shift Lever Spring" failure. .
Yes, poor shifting.



You have a bike that is not shifting well. You have a bike with a known faulty part in the shifting mechanism. Isn't the overwhelmingly obvious first step to sorting your issue just to get the spring replaced?
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Old 07-27-2013, 12:51 PM   #17972
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Yes, poor shifting.



You have a bike that is not shifting well. You have a bike with a known faulty part in the shifting mechanism. Isn't the overwhelmingly obvious first step to sorting your issue just to get the spring replaced?
Sometimes things like getting someone to do something are not so easy. Seems dealer's service manager, who has been recently fired, could not locate the part that Triumph sent for my bike and asked me for some time to find it. Replacement manager/general manager is on vacation this week.

I didn't see any merit in asking the mechanic filling in as SM to get involved in the cluster fuck.

I guess what I should have asked was is a catastrophic failure imminent? or is it safe to ride while putting up with poor shifting until next week?

My expectations are not high at the only shop I would consider doing business with.
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Old 07-27-2013, 01:26 PM   #17973
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I guess what I should have asked was is a catastrophic failure imminent? or is it safe to ride while putting up with poor shifting until next week?
I believe what happens if the spring breaks or gets weak is that it won't want to return to it's normal static position and that you would have to return the lever manually to it's normal resting spot after each shift (with your foot) otherwise the lever just hangs limp and the selector won't reset. I don't think its the type of thing that will strand you but it could be a hassle. I had mine done before it was showing any signs of going bad. I did notice it was much easier to get into neutral afterwards and shifting in general was better. Sorry you have to deal with a crappy dealer.
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Old 07-27-2013, 07:48 PM   #17974
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Sorry you have to deal with a crappy dealer.
There's blame to go around. The lost part came up in April and I never pressed them about it. I was happily riding a trouble free bike until now. The fired Service Manager and I did not have a cordial relationship. Looking forward to meeting whoever gets the the job next.
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Old 07-27-2013, 10:24 PM   #17975
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Here's a good dealer note: Stopped into Latus Motors, Gladstone, OR, today. They are Harley and Triumph. For a Harley event there was a band and a barbecue. Spoke with the service manager for a minute and he took my Tiger in back to flash the latest map. I grabbed a hot dog, listened to the tunes and rode off. Good day and a great dealer!
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Old 07-28-2013, 01:47 PM   #17976
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My statement still stands that there are no real updates to the 2014 even though (or because) no information is available.

This might be covered elsewhere, but I don't mind saying it here as well.
I just noticed a difference between my (late) 2011 bike (one of the first of the black framers), and my mates 2012 bike.
Apart from the obvious addition of the letters X and C after the embossed digits 800 on the infill panels between the seat and the tank, and his having ABS and mine not.

There is a difference with the side stand and side-stand-switch.

My switch is mounted from underneath the bike and the plunger acts on the underside of the kick stand. The slightly later bike has the switch mounted from the top, and the mount has a lip on the edge to act as protection for the switch, the plunger acts on the top/outer side of the stand.

Mine. (You may also notice I have the switch guard by Touratech)


My mates slightly newer one.
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Old 07-28-2013, 04:21 PM   #17977
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This might be covered elsewhere, but I don't mind saying it here as well.
I just noticed a difference between my (late) 2011 bike (one of the first of the black framers), and my mates 2012 bike.
Apart from the obvious addition of the letters X and C after the embossed digits 800 on the infill panels between the seat and the tank, and his having ABS and mine not.

There is a difference with the side stand and side-stand-switch.

My switch is mounted from underneath the bike and the plunger acts on the underside of the kick stand. The slightly later bike has the switch mounted from the top, and the mount has a lip on the edge to act as protection for the switch, the plunger acts on the top/outer side of the stand.

Mine. (You may also notice I have the switch guard by Touratech)


My mates slightly newer one.
That's interesting, I wonder if I could change mine to this, the stand switch is protected now! Looks like it's just a new stand and the cover, My stand switch is bashed to bits, but still working.
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Old 07-28-2013, 06:23 PM   #17978
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That's interesting, I wonder if I could change mine to this, the stand switch is protected now! Looks like it's just a new stand and the cover, My stand switch is bashed to bits, but still working.
Yep. I took delivery of my 2012 in May of 12 and ordered the Touratech cover straight away. I got it an found it didn't work. TT asked me to send them photos when I returned it and shortly after, they added the note to their catalog that it didn't fit the later models. Evidently Triumph figured out one bad thing.
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Old 07-28-2013, 06:33 PM   #17979
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This might be covered elsewhere, but I don't mind saying it here as well.
I just noticed a difference between my (late) 2011 bike (one of the first of the black framers), and my mates 2012 bike.
Apart from the obvious addition of the letters X and C after the embossed digits 800 on the infill panels between the seat and the tank, and his having ABS and mine not.

There is a difference with the side stand and side-stand-switch.

My switch is mounted from underneath the bike and the plunger acts on the underside of the kick stand. The slightly later bike has the switch mounted from the top, and the mount has a lip on the edge to act as protection for the switch, the plunger acts on the top/outer side of the stand.

Mine. (You may also notice I have the switch guard by Touratech)
AFAIK (besides fuel maps, colors and recall/service bulletins)

2011 to 2012
Side stand switch and black frame (or very dark grey)
2012 to 2013
"XC" taken off the tank and molded into the lower tank panel
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:53 AM   #17980
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Somehow Touratech forgot to notify me when they got upper crash bard back in stock. Good thing I checked.
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Old 07-29-2013, 03:47 PM   #17981
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Tires Question

My scorp trails are just about worn out, but I have liked them better than the Fullbores. About 3K miles on the latter, 5k miles on the former and look to go maybe another thousand or so.

Thinking about trying the new Anakee 3's, but I see they come in V and H rating - which do I want? Seems to me the trails are V rated. Are H-rated a harder compound but less sticky?

Anyone try the new Anakees?
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Old 07-29-2013, 04:15 PM   #17982
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My scorp trails are just about worn out, but I have liked them better than the Fullbores. About 3K miles on the latter, 5k miles on the former and look to go maybe another thousand or so.

Thinking about trying the new Anakee 3's, but I see they come in V and H rating - which do I want? Seems to me the trails are V rated. Are H-rated a harder compound but less sticky?

Anyone try the new Anakees?
I just bought the H rated, not much chance of me going over 130mph on the Tiger. I only have a few thousand kilometers on them but so far they hold air, stick till I drag my boots and basically go round and round so for me they work. I've only done a few kms of gravel and no off road or trail riding so can't comment on that but they were fine on the bit of gravel I did. If they last, I'll just buy another set.
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Old 07-29-2013, 05:31 PM   #17983
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I just bought the H rated, not much chance of me going over 130mph on the Tiger. I only have a few thousand kilometers on them but so far they hold air, stick till I drag my boots and basically go round and round so for me they work. I've only done a few kms of gravel and no off road or trail riding so can't comment on that but they were fine on the bit of gravel I did. If they last, I'll just buy another set.
Yeah, it's not about the speed rating as much as the compound that gets that rating. Seems to me if a H is sticky enough it's a harder compound and thus lasts longer. I know car tires are that way, the V or Z rated tires will evaporate.

I'm just wondering if anyone has experience with that.

I also noticed Pirelli has four part numbers for the 150 size Trails - different sidewall stiffness for different models of bikes.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:07 PM   #17984
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Looking for a bike to buy to learn to ride dirt.

I am loving my 2013 XC. Switched from a Sprint to the XC because of old knees. Now that I have the XC it seems a shame not to use it on a little dirt, but I don't want to start with the XC. Just looking to do easy stuff. After almost 50 years of street riding I am going to try dirt. Ain't that a strange one. Any thoughts? A friend has a DRZ-400 and loves it. I will be buying used and my budget is $3K give or take.
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Old 07-29-2013, 06:14 PM   #17985
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If you're just going to ride dirt then get a greensticker dirtbike and go out and ride it. A KDX, WR250F, 250exc, or any number of dirtbikes will get you learned and dirty. The lighter the better. Older models can be had for cheap.

The DRZ is a decent little dualsport, but it's still heavy and underpowered compared to the others.

Or take up observed trials. If you're really in Apple Valley join the Plonkers, get a trials bike and ride their events. Nothing will teach you dirt skills like trials riding.

Done right you'll realize the XC has no business being offroad anyway.
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