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Old 08-28-2013, 07:55 PM   #196
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When Stu Rogers came to the USA to race someone elses plunger Norton he added aftermarket steering dampners to the rear suspension for some control.
I asked him about it and he said something like, "Without them the bloody thing is all over the place. " He seemed to prefer the stability of a rigid to the , Now what ? of the plungers.
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Old 08-28-2013, 08:01 PM   #197
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I don't know if any of you are still following this thread, but in case you are, here is an update...









Fear not Kev,I'm sure that there are many more than I who look forward to your posts and pictures.I really enjoy your pics of swap meets,old bikes at your mates workshops et al.Please keep on with what you do.
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Old 09-01-2013, 09:16 PM   #198
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At the weekend I came across something I have not seen before, and have heard no mention of it previously in all my Norton searches.

I came across an old Norton 30, 500 International,plunger frame model from the late 40's, that had been owned by the same old boy since way back when. But this one was different, the rear suspension had been modified, and on further discussion I was led to believe that this was a Norton "Works" modification?



So anybody heard of or have reference to this modification? and do any of you out there have an idea on where I could find these small rams so that I could do this to my project?
How about the shock absorber from an air seat, like a Bostrom from a big truck (lorrie, I guess your trucks have air seats over there) like this
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:44 PM   #199
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Thanks for that, I shall look into the truck seat idea....
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Old 09-05-2013, 11:14 AM   #200
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Norton Brake Plate, It's a Scoop I Tell Ya!

Air scoops come in all shapes and sizes, some functional, some not, some have a little style, and some well let's not mention those.

Ok then, now I have my front wheel built around the Triumph hub, it was time to think about getting a Norton brake plate to fit, some people will go down the Triumph/BSA conical hub TLS setup, these look great when done correctly, and give good braking with the twin leading shoe. Others will use the earlier Triumph TLS, these again look great, when done right, but I wanted "Old Style" so have gone for a SLS shoe Norton plate, Style over function I guess some would say. But single leading shoe brakes are great if set up correctly, and if you ride within their limitations.

The standard Norton plate needs a little machining to match up to the conical hub, but it is nothing too technical.





The next thing was to decide what type of scoop I wanted, time to hit the pictures...

I have often looked at this bike as a source of inspiration for the direction of my bike, and love the black hub with polished air scoop.



and of course my friend Mick's Inter



Then you have something like this?





So I set too with a piece of card and some scissors, and came up with a suitable design..



Time to get out the shears as I transfer the plan to metal.



half an hour later and this was the result..





Not too shabby if I say so myself, it now needs a good buff up on the polish wheel, and my brake plate needs drilling and turning black.



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Old 09-07-2013, 12:20 PM   #201
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I mentioned yesterday that I had picked up an old exhaust for my Norton, so this morning I thought I would see how it looked hung on the frame, pretty good so far, but I will wait to make a judgement call until the bike is built.





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Old 09-07-2013, 12:23 PM   #202
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When Stu Rogers came to the USA to race someone elses plunger Norton he added aftermarket steering dampners to the rear suspension for some control.
I asked him about it and he said something like, "Without them the bloody thing is all over the place. " He seemed to prefer the stability of a rigid to the , Now what ? of the plungers.
If you look at the picture here, you can see it has steering dampers fitted at the plungers



and what a nice exhaust, I would like to find one like that
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:42 PM   #203
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If you look at the picture here, you can see it has steering dampers fitted at the plungers



and what a nice exhaust, I would like to find one like that
With one like that, you'd get nicked first time out. Straight megs are ungodly loud. The reverse cone one you have is a lot quieter. BTW, I used to inspect that bike every time he raced it in AHRMA.
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Old 09-07-2013, 05:08 PM   #204
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With one like that, you'd get nicked first time out.
At one of the vintage runs a year or two back there was an Inter with the megaphone exhaust. I picked up the 'g-donk g-donk' of it coming up the hill for some minutes before it appeared. Then the rider opened it up at the crest and my ears were ringing for some time.
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Old 09-08-2013, 04:14 AM   #205
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Not having a shop at the house, it can be hard to find the motivation to go to the lockup some days. And it seems every time you make a little progress, you also take a few steps in reverse. Just like today. The recent motor I bought, although it was a good deal, and is all there, it is not as good externally as it is internally. The cases are not a matched pair, and have a bit of damage, which is only to be expected, as it was built as a competition trials motor. there is sand and corrosion all over the motor, and blue Hermatite sealer everywhere else!

So today I made the decision to pull the motor down, and rebuild it into my good matched pair cases. I am also going to sell off a couple of the parts to fund my engine work. My model 50 alloy head has gone off to be machined, it needs opening up to fit the 500 ES2 barrel, and I am having the carb inlet opened up from 25mm to 32mm so as to fit a 32mm Amal concentric, this should help it to breath a little better, and I am going to help in this area by fitting some hi lift cams too.

Now the inside of the motor I bought, has all been lightened and polished, the rockers are all lightened, and it looks like the crank and rod have been worked on too. So I will be getting some new roller bearings fitted into my cases this week, and then look at transferring the internals over. The Barrel has already been rebored, and a new BSA B50 slipper piston fitted, this should give me a bore and stroke of 83x100 equating to 541cc.

here is a good little displacement calculator... http://www.everything2stroke.com/con...ent-Calculator

So I shall sell off the Wellworthy Al-Fin 500 head, and matching rocker cover, and the money raised should pay for my head work, and new valves, or at least go someway to getting it all sorted.

My frame is once again just a frame assembly, as that is going to the metal workers place, to have the alloy tank matched to the frame, my front brake plate and some other parts are off to the powder coaters to be blackened. Once the brake plate is back I can set to fitting the scoop I made up. I then need to drop some of the smaller parts I have found, off to a friend to get them zinc coated, maybe then, I can start to put it all back together again.
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:36 AM   #206
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Well the brake plate is done, all apart from one last rivet (in case any of you are counting) I am really quite pleased with the result...




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Old 09-22-2013, 01:37 PM   #207
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Now how am I going to repair this..



as if I never had enough rust!
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Old 09-22-2013, 09:09 PM   #208
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Old 09-26-2013, 05:38 AM   #209
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Now how am I going to repair this..



as if I never had enough rust!
Maybe this guy?
https://www.facebook.com/Fossfab?fref=ts
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Old 10-01-2013, 09:07 AM   #210
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I got a call today from the metal basher, asking if I would like to see how the tank is coming on, so I did, and it is...








Almost ready for paint...

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