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Old 09-04-2013, 02:35 PM   #16
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What I just don't get involved in is bashing our sidecar builders....these are the only ones we have here in the US.... and bless them, what would we do without them??
Ditto. There's been a bit of that going on here lately so kept quiet even though I have opinions (heh, don't we all!). I credit this forum for turning me onto the idea of hacks, and now that summer is starting to cool I've been thoroughly enjoying my sidecar! I've also won over another convert: my Dude has been driving the hack more and more, and yesterday he told me he wants one. I don't think we have the funds for another DMD/CSM full build, so we'll be using this forum for ideas on how to fabricate our own. That's a little ways off but, yeah, this is a pretty sweet forum.
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Old 09-04-2013, 06:17 PM   #17
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What's anyone else think advrider/hacks/ fountain of info ? entertainment ? everyones a saint ? Everyones a Troll ? Everything here is the gospel ? DB



It's just a microcosm of society.

Go to a bar , supermarket , bike rally , rodeo , whatever and you'll see exactly the same thing.

Remember , old age does not automatically confer wisdom ... it's a general guide as to how many candles to purchase for the birthday cake.

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Old 09-04-2013, 06:45 PM   #18
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science vs art

To answer your question, there are scientific and mathmatical/dynamic sidecar writings, I have found them by googling things like "Dynamics of Three Wheeled Vehicles".
But very few sidecar outfits are identical, and if you give four guys identical BMWs and Jupiter sidecars, and ask them to meet back here in a year, you would find four wildly different vehicles...
Trust your own judgement when you built, and use it to filter what you read here...
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:07 PM   #19
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I have to agree that there as many unique sidecars are there are unique sidecar owners.
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Old 09-04-2013, 07:20 PM   #20
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It's just a microcosm of society.

Go to a bar , supermarket , bike rally , rodeo , whatever and you'll see exactly the same thing.

Remember , old age does not automatically confer wisdom ... it's a general guide as to how many candles to purchase for the birthday cake.

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Well FR700 I like your comment the best, as usual my inability to accept my fellow man with all their foibles has reared it's ugly head again, it's my problem.
Though I'm fond of saying "electricity,water and mankind all seek the path of least resistance " I keep thinking they'll rise above themselves.DB

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Old 09-04-2013, 08:16 PM   #21
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Well FR700 I like your comment the best, as usual my inability to accept my fellow man with all their foibles has reared it's ugly head again, it's my problem.
Though I'm fond of saying "electricity,water and mankind all seek the path of least resistance " I keep thinking they'll rise above themselves.DB

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, I like that. Pretty much on the money , but thankfully there are those who push beyond that mindset. These are the people I would gladly share a fireside ale with.
I still recall the 'good old days' here when a question's first response would generally be " fuck off and search ".


Groucho Marx in a telegram to the Friar's Club of Beverly Hills , "Please accept my resignation. I don’t care to belong to any club that will have me as a member".




Have fun Dave.

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Old 09-04-2013, 09:14 PM   #22
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as usual my inability to accept my fellow man with all their foibles has reared it's ugly head again, it's my problem.
“TWO WOLVES”
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside all people.
He said, ‘My son, the battle is between two ‘wolves’ inside us all.
One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.’
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: ‘Which wolf wins?’
The old Cherokee simply replied,
‘The one you feed.’

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Old 09-04-2013, 09:58 PM   #23
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“TWO WOLVES”
One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside all people.
He said, ‘My son, the battle is between two ‘wolves’ inside us all.
One is Evil. It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.
The other is Good. It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.’
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: ‘Which wolf wins?’
The old Cherokee simply replied,
‘The one you feed.’

now you've done it!

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Old 09-04-2013, 11:26 PM   #24
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now you've done it!

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Nothing bad intended in that,just the truth for all of us.Nothing can hurt or annoy you unless you let it.Easier said than done though.Back to my cave now.


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Nothing bad intended in that,just the truth for all of us.Nothing can hurt or annoy you unless you let it.Easier said than done though.Back to my cave now.


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don't go back in your cave, i am just a funning ya.

i recently met DB and i was really just kidding with him

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ps: I love that story. i have told it many times.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:44 AM   #26
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Remember , old age does not automatically confer wisdom ... it's a general guide as to how many candles to purchase for the birthday cake.
Damn, thanks for killing my last vestige of hope
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It's just a microcosm of society.

Go to a bar , supermarket , bike rally , rodeo , whatever and you'll see exactly the same thing.

Remember , old age does not automatically confer wisdom ... it's a general guide as to how many candles to purchase for the birthday cake.

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That's pretty much on the ball. It's the same in here as anywhere else. Read/listen a lot and take out of it what you need or think is right. Read enough and you'll eventually be able to work out the gold from the quartz.
There really is more gold too, just takes a little while to find it.
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Old 09-06-2013, 04:51 AM   #28
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Hmm,Well there was no intrenet when I built my first one , I looked at a couple and thought i'll give it a go,(SL350honda) I made it a bit on the heavy side!! Next one was much better and so on. Still doing it.The best part was learning to drive them,I just rode it out of drive and onto road!! WOW!! I asked a lot of people a lot of questions and used the info I thought was for me. The man who never made a mistake never made anything. Regads, Sleaz
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Old 09-09-2013, 02:21 AM   #29
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Remember , old age does not automatically confer wisdom ... it's a general guide as to how many candles to purchase for the birthday cake.

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LOL this is true but we have made all the same mistakes first
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LOL this is true but we have made all the same mistakes first


Experience is being able to recognize a mistake the second time you make it.
And I speak from experience.
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