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Old 09-04-2013, 07:55 AM   #31
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It is possible this is the mount type -
http://www.ural-zentrale.de/product_...-und-Ural.html
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:36 AM   #32
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Forget what I said above. I now think these are standard later model type.
Ural mounts must be different although the lenses are the same.
Picture from internet -
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:08 AM   #33
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If you are seriously thinking about rhinoliner you need to look at this: https://www.dipyourcar.com/ Forget sand blasting and just spray it. For $250 you're done in a day.
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:28 AM   #34
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I liked that idea but I bought a can and sprayed some metal brackets and didn't like the durability, but I only tried two coats, so I peeled the stuff off and painted instead.
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:30 AM   #35
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Forget what I said above. I now think these are standard later model type.
Ural mounts must be different although the lenses are the same.
Picture from internet -
My fender is more rounded like that one in the pic and the lights are for a flatter fender. My fender is dinged up so I'm wondering if one of the new flatter fenders will fit, then I'll have the proper lights.
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Old 09-04-2013, 10:34 AM   #36
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If you are seriously thinking about rhinoliner you need to look at this:https://www.dipyourcar.com/ Forget sand blasting and just spray it. For $250 you're done in a day.
Hmmnn...for better surface adhension; rust removal, etc. sandblasting is still the best option for a greater long lasting durable finish.

This was mentioned in "Dipyourcar":

I have a bare metal, or primered surface, can I dip it?

Yes, there are several cases of people dipping bare metal to seal out moisture, and dipping over primer and both are still peelable. The biggest concern with bare metal is that there aren't any fingerprints or moisture trapped under the dip, to ensure no surface rust.


In other words, Rust is moisture !! Moisture creates Rust... remove it! Don't cover and trap it!


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Old 09-04-2013, 10:50 AM   #37
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It is easy enough to get rid of moisture before coating.
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:29 AM   #38
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Here's a message I got from these guys

http://www.sodablastquebec.ca/en/sod...-restauration/


Hi Daniel,
We do not recommend sand because it's too strong for your project but we have multiple media that will give better results without damaging. Our price for blasting your sidecar would be 350$ and if you want, we could put 2 coatings of etching primer for 150$.
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Old 09-06-2013, 11:23 PM   #39
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you might check to see if anyone in your area does pickup bed spray on liners. they might at least give you a few ideas. I'm going the DIY style on mine, but I do have a compressor that can do soda blasting. I'll do the bottom outside and inside with rattle can undercoating and paint the rest.
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Old 09-07-2013, 09:56 AM   #40
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That's the line I'm going to take. $500 is waaaay to much for my blood.

I know some guys in Ottawa who work on big trucks and they weld and have a large compressor.

I'm doing a roof on one of their houses so I'll drive the tub up there one day, blast it with soda or glass or whatever and then weld whatever needs it.

The local auto/farm store has these for abrasives .... what do you guys think would work best??

http://www.princessauto.com/pal/Abra...-415-659-182.c

along with one of these siphon fed containers?

http://www.princessauto.com/pal/Siph...ster/8012660.p
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Old 10-04-2013, 01:29 PM   #41
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OK, back in the saddle after getting sidetracked with To Blast Or Not To Blast questions.

My verdict was Not ...

Not going to pay $350 plus etching primer from one shop I got a quote from and a few unanswered emails to three other shops.

So, it's up to me from here on in.

I got a wire cup brush for my angle grinder and went to work for an hour. All the loose rust is gone. You can see daylight through pinholes in the bottom front

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Bottom rear is fine

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Did more finer sanding on the outside

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Shot the outside with POR15 Etching primer

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Two coats of POR15 in the front and back, can still see daylight even though they tell me it'll bridge gaps up to 3/8"

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Got some primer over spray in there, the POR15 is actually very glossy and hard as nails.

I did a third coat of the POR just for good luck .. no pics of the shinyness yet.

I did the POR on a very windy day and didn't have my respirator handy. Take a deep breath and go in for a few brush strokes and back out. Still got a good buzz.



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Old 10-04-2013, 01:45 PM   #42
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There used to be a windshield of some sort on there so I'm filling in the holes. The PO cut the loops off for the tonneau but I want that so I'll leave them alone.

[IMG] photo PA041388_zps55c113b1.jpg[/IMG]

Going around filling dents from the spot welder and other signs of the tough life this car has had

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Look Ma .. No holes!

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Old 10-04-2013, 01:48 PM   #43
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Old 10-04-2013, 02:23 PM   #44
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I always thought that you needed to put bondo onto rust free metal and not over primer paint. Reason being the bondo sticks better to roughed up metal than primer. After smoothing down bondo you would then use primer as fill coat and sand/prime/sand till smooth.

Anyone know for sure?
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Old 10-04-2013, 04:36 PM   #45
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I was thinking about that very thing as I was doing it.

Like I said before I've got no idea how to do this so any advice is appreciated.

I'll sand again tomorrow and see what comes off easily.

BTW it was called Liquid Metal, came in a tube like spot putty.
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