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Old 10-09-2013, 08:48 AM   #586
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Thanks for all of the economy numbers. The PCX seems to get about 30% better fuel economy than my Reflex does yet still is capable of moving with rush hour traffic. I may have a closer look at one.
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I very rarely got less than 100 mpg on my 150.t was under that. I always felt cheated if i I did see top speeds right at 68-70 under perfect conditions. A friend of mine would see much better mileage than I did with a large windscreen. She would get 110 easily. I thought the larger shield should have taken that down a bit, but in her case, it didn't.
This is very interesting to read. Is it possible that her weight has something to do with it? And, a higher windscreen may make her more aerodynamic than you (in addition to her being [possibly] lighter).
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Old 10-09-2013, 10:06 AM   #587
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Going back a bit to the valve adjustment discussion... There's a great step by step how to here: http://hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24.


Back to the current discussion, aerodynamics might have some to do with fuel economy. I have an even bigger windshield, and I regularly get 95-100mpg on my 2011 PCX 125. I do only weigh 155lbs, although I carry at least 50lbs of cargo when travelling. Here's my fuelly, that I haven't updated in thousands of miles:



Here's my PCX with the taller windshield:



There's an entire forum of information over at http://www.hondapcx.org if you want even more info on the scooter, Bronco368. The PCX 150 is where it's at -- it's 5-10mph faster top end, and quicker overall, than the PCX 125, with the same fuel economy because Honda changed the engine design between the two models. They're cosmetically identical.
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Old 10-09-2013, 04:26 PM   #588
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Very tactful way to ask the weight question! LOL. If push came to shove, I'd be a little lighter. Neither one of us would be on the heavier side. It is possible that coming off motorcycles I rode mine harder. The gas mileage difference when on for months until I switched to the Majesty. I thought it may be the aerodynamics as well. I had always heard a windshield hurt your mpg, but never cared enough to do the research.

Just thought I'd toss that information out there for those looking at MPG data.

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Thanks for all of the economy numbers. The PCX seems to get about 30% better fuel economy than my Reflex does yet still is capable of moving with rush hour traffic. I may have a closer look at one.

This is very interesting to read. Is it possible that her weight has something to do with it? And, a higher windscreen may make her more aerodynamic than you (in addition to her being [possibly] lighter).
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Old 10-10-2013, 07:43 AM   #589
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Going back a bit to the valve adjustment discussion... There's a great step by step how to here: http://hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=24.


Back to the current discussion, aerodynamics might have some to do with fuel economy. I have an even bigger windshield, and I regularly get 95-100mpg on my 2011 PCX 125. I do only weigh 155lbs, although I carry at least 50lbs of cargo when travelling. Here's my fuelly, that I haven't updated in thousands of miles:



Here's my PCX with the taller windshield:



There's an entire forum of information over at http://www.hondapcx.org if you want even more info on the scooter, Bronco368. The PCX 150 is where it's at -- it's 5-10mph faster top end, and quicker overall, than the PCX 125, with the same fuel economy because Honda changed the engine design between the two models. They're cosmetically identical.
Damn beautiful scoot!
Great lines and everything is in proportion, no "bloated" look.

Not to mention IMO white is the bomb!

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Old 10-10-2013, 07:18 PM   #590
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I've enjoyed commuting on the PCX for 4 days in a row but tomorrow is Friday so I'm riding the Grom! Awwwww yea!
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:20 PM   #591
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I've enjoyed commuting on the PCX for 4 days in a row but tomorrow is Friday so I'm riding the Grom! Awwwww yea!
Casual Friday?? I'll be interested to get your take on the difference.

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Old 10-11-2013, 08:33 AM   #592
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Here's my PCX with the taller windshield:



There's an entire forum of information over at http://www.hondapcx.org if you want even more info on the scooter, Bronco368.
Thanks for the link, I will have a look over there was well.

Who makes the windscreen on your scoot?

Is the rear rack Honda or after-market?
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Very tactful way to ask the weight question! LOL
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:58 AM   #593
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Casual Friday?? I'll be interested to get your take on the difference.

Happy commuting!

Jim
Quick post after this morning's rider:

Grom is:

More fun (more involved/ gear shifting vs. automatic)
Better suspension
Better brakes (you can really tell the difference)
Better riding position (I like the feet under seat riding position better)
Worse seat

PCX is:

More practical
Better at high speed (this thing is on rails)
Higher top speed


You can't tell a Grom from a PCX from an acceleration point of view from 0 to 30 mph.
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:20 PM   #594
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Damn beautiful scoot!
Great lines and everything is in proportion, no "bloated" look.

Not to mention IMO white is the bomb!

Be Big,
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Thank ya! I love my PCX, best bike I've owned.


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Thanks for the link, I will have a look over there was well.

Who makes the windscreen on your scoot?

Is the rear rack Honda or after-market?
That's a Givi 323DT. I bought it here: http://www.compacc.com/p/Givi-D322-R...da-PCX125-2010

The rear rack's way aftermarket. I bought one from Thailand and had to do some major modifications to actually use it. It was a major hassle... The saga of the backrest is here: http://hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20#p29
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Old 10-13-2013, 04:19 PM   #595
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A first attempt at a short video with the GoPro on the PCX...

http://captnjim.blogspot.com/2013/10/first-attempt.html

A lotta time to wind up with a minute worth of video. I may just stick with shooting stills.

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Old 10-13-2013, 05:37 PM   #596
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A first attempt at a short video with the GoPro on the PCX...

http://captnjim.blogspot.com/2013/10/first-attempt.html

A lotta time to wind up with a minute worth of video. I may just stick with shooting stills.

Jim
Is the video quality set very low?

Almost seemed abstract

I watched it from my phone. Cool to see some action. Should have had the wife do a drive by. Didn't see much of the PCX's in action.
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Old 10-13-2013, 06:34 PM   #597
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Good first vid!

I saw high quality on my ipad.

Looking forward to more vids!
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Old 10-13-2013, 06:52 PM   #598
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Hi Brian,

One of us, and I won't mention which one, but it wasn't me, said, "I don't want to be in the video." Even though she winds up in there for a few seconds. Pretty much a point of view test. Next time, I may strap it to the bike... if there is a next time.

The resolution was set at 1280x960, 47.95 fps. Not sure what happens to it when Blogger uploads it - plenty crisp here.

This was a learning experience. We'll see if I learned enough from it that I don't do it again.

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Old 10-14-2013, 07:39 AM   #599
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That's a Givi 323DT. I bought it here: http://www.compacc.com/p/Givi-D322-R...da-PCX125-2010

The rear rack's way aftermarket. I bought one from Thailand and had to do some major modifications to actually use it. It was a major hassle... The saga of the backrest is here: http://hondapcx.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20#p29
Thanks maddie.
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Old 10-14-2013, 10:44 AM   #600
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and the other huge (imo) factor in favor of Honda is...
Honda will be here in 10, 20, 50 years... will Sym?
Honda parts support and extensive dealer network and service support materials is just heads and tails better than Sym.
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agree. Sym was big out here in Canada a few years ago. Liked their bikes and considered getting one. Sym has vanished from the scene now. No dealers. nada support. Same for Piaggio in my area. They forced closed a great dealer leaving us with 1 horrible one.
Kymco? nice scoots but again. only one dealer.

that is why i will stick with the big 4 for new bikes (Yamaha.Kawasaki.Honda.Suzuki)
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