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Old 10-15-2013, 07:19 PM   #25786
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:20 PM   #25787
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Help.....
I have a new TKC knobbie tire from Jake Wilson. I have a used "new to me" spoked wheel from someone on ADV. The tire and wheel have been balanced twice. One of the two are out of round. Nothing visible on the wheel.

I need advise on how to determine the problem.

I have a brand new Anakee 3. I can take the TKC off the spoked wheel and try the Anakee. If the vibration goes away its the TKC. Any other advise?

Anyone know of someone local who can "true" a spoke wheel if that's the issue?
Pull the axel run it through the wheel and set on a pair of jack stands. Check the radial run out with a straight edge against the tire tread. If the tire is out of round you will have a high spot somewhere.

Then rotate the straight edge 90 degrees against the side wall and check trueness of the rim. If you have wobble there you will need to true the wheel by re-tensioning the spokes. If thoses are Woody's wheels they should come to you already trued.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:22 PM   #25788
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Hey DirtMonkey, is there still room for me now that your friend is coming or should I be hooking up with Eddy?
No problem. Still room.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:28 PM   #25789
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Help.....
I have a new TKC knobbie tire from Jake Wilson. I have a used "new to me" spoked wheel from someone on ADV. The tire and wheel have been balanced twice. One of the two are out of round. Nothing visible on the wheel.

I need advise on how to determine the problem.

I have a brand new Anakee 3. I can take the TKC off the spoked wheel and try the Anakee. If the vibration goes away its the TKC. Any other advise?

Anyone know of someone local who can "true" a spoke wheel if that's the issue?
For balance ~ I prefer the Dyna Beads style internal self balance. Re-balances each time you start and stop (using laws of physics) and does a great job of masking defects.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:44 PM   #25790
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Hey Jeff, that weekend will the my last weekend in Virginia. If I haven't made myself too much of an outcast in your eyes I'm thinking it would be a cool way to finish off my stay here. My buddy who posts here sometimes under Sank might be willing to come too if we can work it out in our schedules.

What do you think? The people I've ridden with before would probably tell you that I don't start any trouble.

Cheers!
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:45 PM   #25791
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Help.....
I have a new TKC knobbie tire from Jake Wilson. I have a used "new to me" spoked wheel from someone on ADV. The tire and wheel have been balanced twice. One of the two are out of round. Nothing visible on the wheel.

I need advise on how to determine the problem.

I have a brand new Anakee 3. I can take the TKC off the spoked wheel and try the Anakee. If the vibration goes away its the TKC. Any other advise?

Anyone know of someone local who can "true" a spoke wheel if that's the issue?
A quick way to check if the rim is true is to use a piece of heavy gauge bare copper wire clamped to, or wrapped around, the fork tube with the end near the side of the rim. Give the wheel a spin and you'll see immediately if it's true or not. I would hope it's not the new TKC but it could be internal on the tire (plys messed up) and not visible.
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Old 10-15-2013, 07:56 PM   #25792
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Great to finally put a name, with a face, with a bike.

Jeff's place is an awesome get away. I'm not sure my wife could ever drag me back to civilization if I had a place like that to escape to.

Great riding with you guys and we could not have asked for more beautiful weather.

Long day ~ great ride! (300+ in the Tahoe 100+ on the bike).

Sorry no better pics were were riding...

Typical, what's my son doing in the photo? Yep, texting on his phone.

It was great to meet you guys!
Had a fun ride today! Way better that being at work. No dust and a few easy water crossings. I think we're ready for the Poor Mans 500.

Jeff, I'm in but Brandon is out.

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Old 10-15-2013, 08:19 PM   #25793
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Thanks Guys......
Lots of good advise. I'll let you know what I find.

I can't wait to get back in the dirt and try the new set up. I have been missing all the fun.
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Old 10-15-2013, 09:56 PM   #25794
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Thanks Guys......
Lots of good advise. I'll let you know what I find.
you don't have to take the wheel off the bike to check for runout, just stabilize the bars with the wheel off the ground, give it a spin. use the eraser end of a #2 pencil (no need to scratch the wheel) with the pencil on a firm support. the runout spec is 1.5mm, doesn't seem like much, but you'll see it if it's there. check both sides for lateral, then round. you can check the tire while you're at it.

i suppose it's possible, but after over a dozen TKCs, i haven't seen a defective tire. never bothered to balance one either.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:57 AM   #25795
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:26 AM   #25796
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Eddy Alvarez Now that's the ugliest Gold Wing I have ever seen!
Don't make me post a photo of my GL1800. With the new suspension it loves the twisties and it goes really fast when I wake up those six cylinders.

Work called and said take the rest of the week off. I don't go back until Monday. If anyone has some time off and wants to get out let me know.

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Old 10-16-2013, 06:56 AM   #25797
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Hey Jeff, that weekend will the my last weekend in Virginia. If I haven't made myself too much of an outcast in your eyes I'm thinking it would be a cool way to finish off my stay here. My buddy who posts here sometimes under Sank might be willing to come too if we can work it out in our schedules.

What do you think? The people I've ridden with before would probably tell you that I don't start any trouble.

Cheers!
Bastard, since you've always been open and honest with your feelings, I will honor you with the same. I understand your emotions and applaud your need to change the world, but your oftentimes lack of social courtesy in forums troubles me. I don't think I care to have to endure that in person. So I would prefer it if you didn't come to my place on your last weekend in Richmond. Thank you for asking.

I've ridden in the Pacific Northwet with the DS crowd up there. Been to Seattle many times. You will love it there and fit in perfectly. I wish you the best.

Namaste'

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Old 10-16-2013, 08:05 AM   #25798
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For balance ~ I prefer the Dyna Beads style internal self balance. Re-balances each time you start and stop (using laws of physics) and does a great job of masking defects.

I am glad to see you have had good experience with the Dyna Beads. I gave those a go on my last set of K60 sports. I was never able to get a good high speed (80mph) smooth ride. I could always feel some vibration. I even doubled the quantity of beads to no effect.

While I was on my TAT trip I noticed a rhythmic vibration and decided to pull over at a tire shop and change out the beads for conventional balance on a spin balancer. After that switch, it was smooth as glass.

For me the Dyna Beads are a no-go.
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:26 AM   #25799
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Right on brother. It's your party after all. The old lady didn't seem to like the idea of riding so far so close to the move date when I brought it up so it might be for the best. No hard feelings. I don't feel like I was the one who instigated any harsh words here, but I will respond. I caught some really nasty vibes from some people for asking some (what I thought were) legit questions. We can skirt around confronting the decay and harsh realities in society for a little while but eventually the issues will present themselves on their own terms and there will be no more avoiding it. But hey, to each their own! It just worries me to see folks standing around patting each other on the back while the ship is taking on water. I think we can all see that things are headed in the wrong direction. Gee, I hope that wasn't too "political" a statement! ;)

I spent years on and off in Portland OR and fell in love with the area but Seattle will be all new for me. Thanks for the well wishes!!



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Bastard, since you've always been open and honest with your feelings, I will honor you with the same. I understand your emotions and applaud your need to change the world, but your oftentimes lack of social courtesy in forums troubles me. I don't think I care to have to endure that in person. So I would prefer it if you didn't come to my place on your last weekend in Richmond. Thank you for asking.

I've ridden in the Pacific Northwet with the DS crowd up there. Been to Seattle many times. You will love it there and fit in perfectly. I wish you the best.

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Old 10-16-2013, 08:46 AM   #25800
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I am glad to see you have had good experience with the Dyna Beads. I gave those a go on my last set of K60 sports. I was never able to get a good high speed (80mph) smooth ride. I could always feel some vibration. I even doubled the quantity of beads to no effect.

While I was on my TAT trip I noticed a rhythmic vibration and decided to pull over at a tire shop and change out the beads for conventional balance on a spin balancer. After that switch, it was smooth as glass.

For me the Dyna Beads are a no-go.
I have beads in for about the last 2500 miles and it's the first time I've ever tried them. I must not be very sensitive to balance, because lead weights, beads and no balancing at all seem about the same to me. In fact I rarely balance my tires. Only tried these to make sure I wasn't missing something..

Here's a potential downside for us dual-sporters who do a lot of airing down and back up. At least twice and maybe 3 times since I've had the beads in - I've gone to air up/down and lost all my pressure because, I believe, a bead jammed the valve core. Once or twice in my garage and the last time in BFEgypt campground in TN. I couldn't clear that one and had to swap it out. Luckily I carry spares. Not the same valve either, one front one rear. could be a coincidence, but I blame the beads. ymmv.

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