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Old 10-16-2013, 07:39 AM   #31
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CJ offers one which eliminates the grommets.

http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/about-us...um-skid-plate/

Edit: package from cj

It looks like I spoke too soon on the hardware, I'm not sure if they were sent separately on purpose, they were forgotten from the original box, it was a drop shipping setup, or CJ saw this post but today in my mailbox was a package of fasteners!

Again, super happy with everything and these will probably just wind up in the bolt drawer until the next oil change.


Sorry for any confusion on this and I'm sorry the hardware did not make it to you before or the same time the skidplate arrived. I'm just seeing these posts now.

As we returned from the KTM rally, I've been busy getting back orders out and was sold out of skidplate so I had a few drop shipped as soon as they were made instead of them being shipped to me and then back out. I was trying to catch up with hardware kit builds and shipments. Looks as if UPS got there faster than I thought.

ALL CJ Designs version skidplates, as linked above, come with and NEED the REQUIRED NEW hardware as my skidplate version does not use the Rubber grommets and the OEM hardware will not work.

WELD86 produces my skidplate version with a few specific CJD Required tweaks to make it better for my use and that's what is offer directly from CJ Designs.

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Old 10-16-2013, 07:44 AM   #32
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:21 AM   #33
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ALL CJ Designs version skidplates, as linked above, come with and NEED the REQUIRED NEW hardware as my skidplate version does not use the Rubber grommets and the OEM hardware will not work.
I'm interested to know the rationale for the change- can you tell us?
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Old 10-16-2013, 08:43 AM   #34
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Sorry for any confusion on this and I'm sorry the hardware did not make it to you before or the same time the skidplate arrived. I'm just seeing these posts now.

As we returned from the KTM rally, I've been busy getting back orders out and was sold out of skidplate so I had a few drop shipped as soon as they were made instead of them being shipped to me and then back out. I was trying to catch up with hardware kit builds and shipments. Looks as if UPS got there faster than I thought.

ALL CJ Designs version skidplates, as linked above, come with and NEED the REQUIRED NEW hardware as my skidplate version does not use the Rubber grommets and the OEM hardware will not work.

WELD86 produces my skidplate version with a few specific CJD Required tweaks to make it better for my use and that's what is offer directly from CJ Designs.

Safe travels,
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Craig, sorry if it came across as me badmouthing you. I want to be clear I am 100% happy with the product and the service I received. There was nothing more than some minor confusion on my part which a little patience or calling would have made into a non-issue. I can totally understand how things could get backed up like that and appreciate you providing the fastest option possible.

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I'm interested to know the rationale for the change- can you tell us?
It is the premise that the stock rubber grommets won't hold up, or make a much of a difference, to real use under a 500lb bike, so the skid plate is hard mounted like every other dirt bike skid plate is. There is more info in the link I posted earlier about structural changes to the leading edge but without the plate off the bike i'm in no position to explain them.
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Old 10-16-2013, 09:39 AM   #35
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I'm interested to know the rationale for the change- can you tell us?
As Vx stated above. This info and updated skiplate pics are listed and shown on the link provided to skidplate info.

But in short. Over the years I've destroyed every skidplate, I've mounted to my 950 ADV at the rate of about 1 plate a year. I needed to try something else and change this. WELD86 and I worked on a Custom built WELD86 version for testing on our 17,000 mile Wisconsin to Alaska to Mexico trip, and it's been on my bike 4 years now without any issues. I tweaked it a bit more and that's what I now offer to all you. I would say it's been pretty well tested in most riding environments and trail conditions. Yes, it's heavy. But we're riding 550lb bikes plus luggage on trails. Figure ~ 625lbs plus rider..... These aren't 250lb dirt bikes. Most skid plates you find on the market for the LC8 ADV bikes I wouldn't trust on 450, They are fine for gravel roost guards, but not as bash plates.

No worries Vx, I didn't take it that way. I just wanted to clear thing up from the horses mouth, I appreciate your responce and feedback. Thanks to all of you for your support. See you on the trails, CJ
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:17 PM   #36
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Weld 86 quality threw out and you wont break it. I have broken two other brand skid plates
wondering which skid plates you have broken??? I am currently debating the weld86 (looks well built but heavy) and the slavens racing a bit more cost friendly looks a little bit lighter without being wimpy... Black dog looks nice but is out given the price...
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Weld 86 quality threw out and you wont break it. I have broken two other brand skid plates
+1 weld 86 that's what I run.
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Old 07-23-2014, 09:51 PM   #38
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...I am currently debating the weld86 (looks well built but heavy...
It weighs 8 lbs, but the stocker weighs 4. I can't feel the difference.
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Old 07-23-2014, 10:31 PM   #39
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It weighs 8 lbs, but the stocker weighs 4. I can't feel the difference.
for that kind of weight its strong enough you can jack up the bike with it?
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for that kind of weight its strong enough you can jack up the bike with it?
I would have no qualms about doing so.
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for that kind of weight its strong enough you can jack up the bike with it?
Yes, but you can do that with the stocker.

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weld 86!!!
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for that kind of weight its strong enough you can jack up the bike with it?
I have-- it shrugs it right off.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:15 AM   #44
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Old 07-24-2014, 09:25 AM   #45
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You should look at the globetrottin design - it really protects the whole engine and doesn't weight 80lbs
Weld86 weighs just over 8 pounds on my certified digital shipping scale. All the grommets & fasteners fit perfectly. The welds are clean & continuous. I've beat the hell outa my bike in the mountains of West Virginia, used it to jack up the bike, no problems whatsoever. I've had rocks so big hit the bike I was SURE something had to happen- nothing.

Carbon fiber cracks, period. Even as 2 stroke expansion chamber guards it is useless, as it still dents the pipe. Once it cracks & begins to separate, the CF fibers are like needles/razor blades. Sure it looks cool (to some) and weighs very little (um, just don't put that other gallon of gas in the tanks, eat less for breakfast, etc if weight is an issue) but it doesn't protect like 1/4" aluminum does.

I haven't seen the CJ plate but if Weld86 is making them it's gonna be tough!
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