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Old 10-16-2013, 12:52 AM   #31
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Passing out fliers to his neighborhood could be fun.

Public shaming is especially painful for a big ego.
That was kinda my thought..... all your problems might end when high-maintenance-wifey can't get the other society-babes to come over for tea.....
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Old 10-16-2013, 10:27 AM   #32
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Public shaming won't work. They are 2nd home owners. They have no friends unless they import them. I do see these great stickers around town occasionally. They simply say "persons name, what a douchebag". Sometimes accompanied by a picture of the douchebag.
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Old 10-16-2013, 11:56 AM   #33
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Public shaming won't work. They are 2nd home owners. They have no friends unless they import them. I do see these great stickers around town occasionally. They simply say "persons name, what a douchebag". Sometimes accompanied by a picture of the douchebag.
Maybe if douchebag sees his face on the town poles he will pay up.....
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Old 10-16-2013, 01:47 PM   #34
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Tom, I am sorry that you are going through this crap. Unfortunately, the days of a deal between two gentlemen are long gone.
Several years ago, my wife did some fabrication and welding work for a big chain restaurant that was going in. She was a second tier sub for one of the contractors.
Thjey stiffed her for about $8k so she filed a lien on them at the courthouse. They basically didn't care since they had no intention of selling the place.
So then she called up one of the TV stations and they did a story on it and that got her paid!
It would be tough to do the same to an individual and you had better have your ducks in a row to avoid a defamation case filed back on you.
If you are 100% in the right, maybe write a letter to the editor and finger him out that way.

Good luck and if we need to burn him out, I know some guys that know some guys. I keed.
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Old 10-16-2013, 02:43 PM   #35
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[QUOTE= I have never been screwed by a poor person but I have sure been raped by some rich bastards.[/QUOTE] +1 my friend. +1 indeed.
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Old 10-16-2013, 03:39 PM   #36
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Here in Utah you can file a lien and add reasonable lawyers fees to that lien. It is done that way so that everyone doesn't need to be a lawyer. Go find one and have them file everything for you if it's the same in CO.
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Old 10-17-2013, 04:35 PM   #37
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+1 my friend. +1 indeed.
a dorothy parker quotation:

"if you want to know what God almighty thinks of money, just look at the people he gives it to."

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Old 10-17-2013, 04:38 PM   #38
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Old 10-17-2013, 07:15 PM   #39
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Old 10-17-2013, 09:07 PM   #40
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30 yrs. as a subcontractor and I've never heard of a lien getting paid. It clouds the title, but will drop off if you don't renew every year. Maybe that's why I've never heard of one working, guys just give up or miss the deadline. Not saying it doesn't work, just never heard of it.
Small claims is your best bet. I do know guys that have gotten paid that way, and as previously stated, usually right after the cop serves them. If you have your ducks in a row they probably won't even show up. If you don't, take your chances, maybe you'll get $.50 on the dollar, maybe not.

I'm lucky, I pretty much only work on a "hand-shake" basis and have had to wait a few months from time to time but have only been screwed out of a few hundred bucks once. I'm still mad about that, but it's my fault for not having a signed contract working for a lawyer, which is exactly what she told me when she "re-negotiated" the price at the end of the job.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:50 AM   #41
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The only thing going for the OP in this case, is the fact that the homeowner is looking to sell soon. A lien will prevent him for selling without satisfying the lien. In a normal circumstance, small claims court would be the way to go. I have been in front of the local small claims judge 3 times in 22 years. Same guy each time.

Each time he comes out and preaches about the benefits of settling before a judgment is rendered. He also preaches that a judgment is all he can do. He cannot force the other guy to pay. You can take that judgment to a collection agency and have them try to collect it for you, but the court cannot.

Then he sends us out in the hallway to hash it out. If that doesn't work, we have access to a mediator on site. If that doesn't work, we go in front of the judge and he does his Judge Judy thing.

The last time I was there, I had the guy over a barrel. He had no grounds not to pay me. I had a stack of documentation and all my facts lined out, with pictures. In the hall, the homeowner low balled me on a settlement. Neither one of us wanted to try the mediator so we went in front of the judge. When the judge read the facts of the case, he went into preach mode again. He basically told the homeowner that the judgment he was about to render was going right onto his credit report. No matter what, he will always have a judgment on his credit report. It will cost him extra finance fees if he tried to buy anything, if they would finance him at all. Then he said he was going to go "relieve some pressure from 3 cups of coffee" and left us to renegotiate. I wasn't budging.

I walked out of the court with full payment in hand. The judge filed the case as closed pending transfer of funds. Once the check cleared, I had to call in and let the court know that we were satisfied. On the way out of court that day, I watched the homeowner walk to his car. Silver Mercedes that cost more than my house. Score one for the little guy.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:00 PM   #42
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Public shaming won't work. They are 2nd home owners. They have no friends unless they import them. I do see these great stickers around town occasionally. They simply say "persons name, what a douchebag". Sometimes accompanied by a picture of the douchebag.
Eric Corff?

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Old 10-19-2013, 06:55 AM   #43
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Eric Corff?

that was one of the funniest things I had seen. Those stickers were EVERYWHERE! I don't even know him, but his reputation now precedes him.
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Old 10-19-2013, 09:11 AM   #44
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that was one of the funniest things I had seen. Those stickers were EVERYWHERE! I don't even know him, but his reputation now precedes him.
I think the exact same thing, especially when I see those stickers places OTHER then Telluride
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:17 PM   #45
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Well, how did it turn out?
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