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Old 10-23-2013, 06:31 AM   #31621
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No, I haven't.

I felt the same way, as you on the Retul, about my "professional" fit from one of the local shops. I've gotten my setup pretty close, but, feel I'm too short in the TT/reach dimension. Also, I wear out one side of my chamois before the other, so I'm "off" somewhere. I figured the Retul would highlight the issue.
Check cleat placement first.
Then have someone measure leg lengths
THEN go pay big $$ for a fit session

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Old 10-23-2013, 07:08 AM   #31622
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Check cleat placement first.
Cleats are evenly positioned.

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Then have someone measure leg lengths
It's possible I'm wonky there. But, I've been measured by an orthopedic surgeon, during my knee issue diagnosis. He didn't mention anything about lengths being off.

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THEN go pay big $$ for a fit session
I figured the tracking component of Retul would find the issue in a hurry.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:13 AM   #31623
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I figured the tracking component of Retul would find the issue in a hurry.
You can watch your knees. If they're moving in figure-8s, then seat position is off. Scooting backwards on the seat? Chances are the seat's too low. Riding on the nose? Seat's too high.

If you're wearing out one side of the shorts and not the other, see a chiropractor to see if your hips are level.

If only one leg is figure-8ing, then you've got a leg length discrepancy (or something else like foot length discrepancy) that makes it so that your fit's a compromise.

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Old 10-23-2013, 07:21 AM   #31624
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You can watch your knees. If they're moving in figure-8s, then seat position is off. Scooting backwards on the seat? Chances are the seat's too low. Riding on the nose? Seat's too high.

If you're wearing out one side of the shorts and not the other, see a chiropractor to see if your hips are level.

If only one leg is figure-8ing, then you've got a leg length discrepancy (or something else like foot length discrepancy) that makes it so that your fit's a compromise.

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Some good tips.

Seat height I'm positive on. But, my skeletal characteristics I'm not.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:33 AM   #31625
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No, I haven't.

I felt the same way, as you on the Retul, about my "professional" fit from one of the local shops. I've gotten my setup pretty close, but, feel I'm too short in the TT/reach dimension. Also, I wear out one side of my chamois before the other, so I'm "off" somewhere. I figured the Retul would highlight the issue.
I felt the same way on my TT bike, but strangely the Retul testing failed to identify the problem. Eventually I swapped the 90mm stem for a 120mm, and that cured it. I'm still amazed that something that obvious would have been missed by the fitter, who Triathlete Magazine named as one of the top 5 fitters in the country.
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Old 10-23-2013, 07:55 AM   #31626
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I felt the same way on my TT bike, but strangely the Retul testing failed to identify the problem. Eventually I swapped the 90mm stem for a 120mm, and that cured it. I'm still amazed that something that obvious would have been missed by the fitter, who Triathlete Magazine named as one of the top 5 fitters in the country.
Ooops!

What I did was setup my seat to aerobar length the same as my TT bike. But, the BB is farther back on the TT frame (longer reach). What I feel like is I'm scrunched on the Tricross. I'm thinking a longer toptube, set forward saddle, then mess with stem lengths. Knowing your result makes me think I really need to find a good fitter, without relying on some gizmo. Of course, a good fitter with a gizmo would probably be the best bet. I just want to get my current frame ironed out before buying another bike, which will hopefully be my last bike.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:09 AM   #31627
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Ooops!

What I did was setup my seat to aerobar length the same as my TT bike. But, the BB is farther back on the TT frame (longer reach). What I feel like is I'm scrunched on the Tricross. I'm thinking a longer toptube, set forward saddle, then mess with stem lengths. Knowing your result makes me think I really need to find a good fitter, without relying on some gizmo. Of course, a good fitter with a gizmo would probably be the best bet. I just want to get my current frame ironed out before buying another bike, which will hopefully be my last bike.
Last bike? No such thing.
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Old 10-23-2013, 08:34 AM   #31628
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Last bike? No such thing.
Found a video of you:


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Old 10-23-2013, 11:48 AM   #31629
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Road to work with the "winter setup" today. Lightly studded tire on the front (hey, it froze last night!) and the rear tire aired down to 60psi. Between the tires and the temp around 31F, it was definitely a slog. Feels really dumb to be riding the studded tire on dry pavement but the studs are carbide so I guess it's okay.

I got these new ski gloves for cheap at Costco, and they are so warm! My biggest problem last year was keeping my hands warm and I'll have no such problem with these. Unfortunately, they aren't very grippy so I can't get the right feel with road bike brake levers. So, that means I have to ride the hybrid when it's really cold. And that means riding with that studded tire It's okay, I guess I needed the exercise.
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:32 PM   #31630
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Road to work with the "winter setup" today. Lightly studded tire on the front (hey, it froze last night!) and the rear tire aired down to 60psi. Between the tires and the temp around 31F, it was definitely a slog. Feels really dumb to be riding the studded tire on dry pavement but the studs are carbide so I guess it's okay.

I got these new ski gloves for cheap at Costco, and they are so warm! My biggest problem last year was keeping my hands warm and I'll have no such problem with these. Unfortunately, they aren't very grippy so I can't get the right feel with road bike brake levers. So, that means I have to ride the hybrid when it's really cold. And that means riding with that studded tire It's okay, I guess I needed the exercise.
You're riding, which is more than most of us are doing.
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:58 PM   #31631
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You're riding, which is more than most of us are doing.
I think I'll ride today. It should only be about 92F.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:08 PM   #31632
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You're riding, which is more than most of us are doing.
Honestly, I'm liking having the excuse to ride unapologetically slow
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:46 PM   #31633
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I think I'll ride today. It should only be about 92F.

Atleast you broke into the 90's
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:20 AM   #31634
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Gave up on the studded tire already. It wasn't the most unpleasant riding experience but it was quite a slog coming home yesterday. One of the bigger problems with it is that I am afraid to test the cornering on dry pavement, you really notice how much "energy"/"efficiency" you lose when you slow down for every corner!

If conditions had called for it I would have left it on there, but the forecast is cold and dry for the next week or so. Just couldn't stand the thought of leaving it on there in dry conditions. It was bad enough that I did a tire change in my 34F garage before riding to work this morning I tell you what though, my hybrid felt like a fucking rocket with both tires pumped up to 80 psi this morning
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Old 10-24-2013, 07:42 AM   #31635
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If it's a carbide stud, you shouldn't have to worry about wearing it down, but yeah, it can be a little squirrely in the corners.

I like running two studded tires. It's like a 4x4 tractor. Slow, but you can go anywhere. And yes, you are STRONG and got mad skills by spring. Urban winter riding is a lot like mountain biking, IMO.

I'll be putting mine on probably sometime in the next month.
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