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Old 10-29-2013, 07:04 AM   #1
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Scrapping motorcycle catalytic converters

Anyone ever done this? What did you get for them?

I have 8 cans off various KTM 950's and instead of throwing them out thought they may be worth something in scrap. I've cut a couple apart and the actual cat is about 5" long and 4" diameter.

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Old 10-29-2013, 07:17 AM   #2
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Well,some states at some point may come looking for those cats.
If a bike was so equipped it may come to pass you gotta have one.

Would be worth way more then scrap at that point. Even stock mufflers may be worth something with the noise tickets some towns/counties are giving out.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:49 AM   #3
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I sold a couple of auto cats to these guys SellYourCatsDirect.com

It was pretty easy and they pay the shipping.

I was also scrapping some aluminum last week at the local place and they had a pile of them as well. I didn't check on pricing or anything, but they had containers full, I assume from the local car scrap yards. The cats & wheels are always gone from the local pick & pull.
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:14 AM   #4
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Probably not enough to fool with.The ones I have looked at are metal spiral wraps and are considered a very low grade converter.

They may be worth a few bucks,but for me they are not worth the recovery effort
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:16 AM   #5
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Be prepared to have VIN, vehicle disposition info available, then there's the EPA altering emissions equipment thing. The man is trying to counter the EPIDEMIC level cat theft trend.
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:37 AM   #6
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I was also scrapping some aluminum last week at the local place and they had a pile of them as well. I didn't check on pricing or anything, but they had containers full, I assume from the local car scrap yards....
Or from thieves driving around with saws or pipe cutters.

It's a major problem in some areas. Sometimes car lots get hit for dozens at a time.

Just a quick internet search:

http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/fe...ids-3276.shtml

http://www.edmunds.com/auto-insuranc...ter-theft.html
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Old 10-29-2013, 09:40 AM   #7
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I didn't check on pricing or anything, but they had containers full, I assume from the local car scrap yards.
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Be prepared to have VIN, vehicle disposition info available, then there's the EPA altering emissions equipment thing. The man is trying to counter the EPIDEMIC level cat theft trend.
Concours has it right. The piles of cats at your local scrap metal dealer likely came from shopping malls and fleet lots.

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Old 10-29-2013, 10:25 AM   #8
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Or from thieves driving around with saws or pipe cutters.

It's a major problem in some areas. Sometimes car lots get hit for dozens at a time.

Just a quick internet search:

http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/fe...ids-3276.shtml

http://www.edmunds.com/auto-insuranc...ter-theft.html
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Concours has it right. The piles of cats at your local scrap metal dealer likely came from shopping malls and fleet lots.

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Be prepared to have VIN, vehicle disposition info available, then there's the EPA altering emissions equipment thing. The man is trying to counter the EPIDEMIC level cat theft trend.
I know about the cat thefts, but I also know that they cut them off at the scrap yard. It's one of the easy money things for them. I would guess there may have been close to a semi load of them, and there have been no local reports of a bunch missing from car lots or shopping malls. They also had literally a mountain of aluminum wheels. The local pick and pull removes all of those that it can, I think they get around $0.40 per pound. I scrapped a bent wheel with my 56lbs, I walked out a rich man with my check for $22.40.

This is the opening paragraph of the Edmunds article, which I find hilarious:

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And just for the record I had removed the 2 cats I had from my own vehicles. Some will be surprised, but I even replaced them. The company I posted doesn't give as much for the replacements as they do the OEMs.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:45 AM   #9
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In Atlanta they steal air conditioners, catalytic converters, copper from cell towers, and drain grates off the freeway to sell as scrap.

I have a cat from my 03 Bmw GSA. I am considering selling it as scrap.

My dad had aluminum from A arms off his car. He wanted to sell it instead of putting it in the trash. I took them to a scrap yard, 16 pounds of "dirty aluminum". Dirty because it had rubber grommets in the A arms. The guy walks me to his office calculates for 5 minutes then gives me 85 cents. I should have picked up the A arms and walked away but I didn't.
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Mixed scrap. I end up with piles of unsellable junk from taking bikes apart,the junkyard gives me 0 as it is mixed plastic/alu/steel. A guy comes by and gets it out of my yard from time to time,he must take it all apart to get anything out of it. Too much time involved for very little money.
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Yeah, with the aluminum you have to clean everything else out.

I spend about 2 seconds on it and if it ain't easy, the 16lb maul comes out. Most cast shit succumbs to the first blow. It cathartic.

My load was about 3 small engines, one TS125 case, and a bunch of pieces of smashed shit... All loaded in the broken wheel.
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Old 10-30-2013, 01:37 PM   #12
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Probably not enough to fool with.The ones I have looked at are metal spiral wraps and are considered a very low grade converter.

They may be worth a few bucks,but for me they are not worth the recovery effort

Thanks,,,, that is really what I was after. Worth the trouble or not.


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Be prepared to have VIN, vehicle disposition info available, then there's the EPA altering emissions equipment thing. The man is trying to counter the EPIDEMIC level cat theft trend.

I have three of the bikes these came from and the other set came from a friend that would probably have no issue giving his VIN on his totaled bike if it came down to it.


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Mixed scrap. I end up with piles of unsellable junk from taking bikes apart,the junkyard gives me 0 as it is mixed plastic/alu/steel. A guy comes by and gets it out of my yard from time to time,he must take it all apart to get anything out of it. Too much time involved for very little money.

Mixed scrap was my initial thought also. Next time I go to the scrap yard I'll take one of the cut open cans with me and see what they say.
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Old 10-31-2013, 09:17 AM   #13
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I took a running T-15 Jimmy to scrap and got $60 for it. 72 pounds of suspension parts (assembled struts, control arms, tie rods, wheel bearings) netted about $5. I suppose if I had disassembled the struts and popped the bushings out of the control arms I might have gotten a bit more.
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My buddy took an old Honda 4 cylinder engine to the scrap yard. He got $20 and ran over something, got a flat and spent $50 to get a new prorated tire plus the $3.50/ gallon gas spent driving to the yard.
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My buddy took an old Honda 4 cylinder engine to the scrap yard. He got $20 and ran over something, got a flat and spent $50 to get a new prorated tire plus the $3.50/ gallon gas spent driving to the yard.
That sounds about par for the course for me.
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