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Old 11-26-2013, 03:10 PM   #1366
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He is from South Africa, they talk funny over there.
missed that. Second language at 11pm plus two glasses of JW black will do that to you...
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Old 11-27-2013, 05:33 AM   #1367
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this may have been covered; but, ride in the left tire track of the lane you are in whenever possible. it will put you more out in the field of view of drivers on side roads or drives getting ready to pull onto the road.
also, in my sportbike days, i learned to not only look through the turns where you want the bike to go, but also, hold your head so that your line of sight is paralelle to the horizon or road surface, not leaned over with your shoulders.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:41 PM   #1368
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Kiss the mirror, and reach for the concrete with your elbow.
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:52 AM   #1369
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Kiss the mirror, and reach for the concrete with your elbow.

nOOb advice??? Maybe AMA sanctioned race nOOb, but hardly new rider advice
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Old 12-03-2013, 08:15 AM   #1370
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The guy who posted this would seem to be in the 'banned' category, & I didn't read back to find out what got him banned (seems to be an easy thing to do on here!) BUT, what a great sign that just about says it all for n00b riders!
PS, the Cat & Fiddle is a famous pub in the heart of the Peak District in England which is on one of the best ever "speed freak" sections of road in the UK, which also is one of the sections of road that gets the most 'biker fatalities!!
http://www.maccinfo.com/cat/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24717857
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:50 PM   #1371
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nOOb advice??? Maybe AMA sanctioned race nOOb, but hardly new rider advice
Woops sorry.


Well um.....I guess....

Don't forget to put down your kickstand guys.
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Old 12-03-2013, 01:26 PM   #1372
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Woops sorry.


Well um.....I guess....

Don't forget to put down and put UP your kickstand guys.

Fixed it for you!
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Old 12-05-2013, 06:19 AM   #1373
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Become a Student

Decide to be a student - invest your time and money in the classes, books and videos to fundamentally understand what is going on and revisit them often.

One piece of the puzzle is interacting with other vehicles and how your behavior contributes (positively or negatively) to the overall situation. (i.e. Really understand what causes most two vehicle collisions involving a motorcycle and what you can do to reduce your exposure)

Another piece of the puzzle is the physics of your motorcycle. (i.e. Really understand WHY applying a brake or rolling off the throttle mid turn may cause you to crash)

Being a prudent rider is the name of the game, but you can't be very prudent if you don't even understand the environment you're operating in. Incidentally, I believe the motoGP racers exercise prudence throughout a race, so you can surely be fast and prudent - if you appreciate what's going on around you.
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Old 12-05-2013, 08:38 AM   #1374
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Decide to be a student - invest your time and money in the classes, books and videos to fundamentally understand what is going on and revisit them often.
...

Another piece of the puzzle is the physics of your motorcycle. (i.e. Really understand WHY applying a brake or rolling off the throttle mid turn may cause you to crash)

Being a prudent rider is the name of the game, but you can't be very prudent if you don't even understand the environment you're operating in....
+1 - for every rider, IMHO minimally once every ten years. Better to do it once every five years. Riding theory changes, skills get rusty, new (to the rider) instructors focus on different areas, and different classes focus on different skills.

There is a reason motorcycle cops train under competent teachers as much as they do.
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Old 12-09-2013, 04:56 PM   #1375
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The guy who posted this would seem to be in the 'banned' category, & I didn't read back to find out what got him banned (seems to be an easy thing to do on here!) BUT, what a great sign that just about says it all for n00b riders!
PS, the Cat & Fiddle is a famous pub in the heart of the Peak District in England which is on one of the best ever "speed freak" sections of road in the UK, which also is one of the sections of road that gets the most 'biker fatalities!!
http://www.maccinfo.com/cat/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24717857

I got banned. I called someone's family member an insult popularized by Monthy Python, something about elderberries and hamsters. Never thought it would be taken seriously. But then again, you never know... It was the right call and I shouldn't have done that.
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Old 12-25-2013, 10:23 PM   #1376
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dirt roads

see this all the time on dirt roads. if they can't pass on you on the straightway, they will on a blind rise or uphill or at a turn. i just slow down and let them take my line before an innocent rider coming from the other direction gets a head on.

pass on the left, stay in your line for at least 20 yards (debatable) and get back on the right lane, otherwise the rider you just passed will get roosted with dust and rocks which put that rider at risk.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:26 AM   #1377
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pass on the left, stay in your line for at least 20 yards (debatable) and get back on the right lane, otherwise the rider you just passed will get roosted with dust and rocks which put that rider at risk.
I thought roosting the passed rider was the whole point of passing.
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Old 12-31-2013, 08:37 AM   #1378
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There is one piece of advice I give to all new and experienced students (and I try to remember it myself...):

"The part of the motorcycle that fails most often is the nut connecting the handlebars to the seat."
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Old 01-05-2014, 05:48 AM   #1379
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To hard to read every one of the 93 pages of posts so apologies if some or all already covered.

Most important things to me that I've learned over the year, probably:

* ride with the balls of your feet on the pegs, especially inside peg when cornering.

* practice shifting weigh across seat whenever possible so it'll be instinctive when you come to that fast decreasing radius turn

* get your inside knee out easier and further into a corner by shifting the ball of your foot onto the end of the peg (knee naturally points where toes are pointing).

* practice keeping the bike as upright as possible in corners so you do it without thinking.
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Old 01-05-2014, 07:29 AM   #1380
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To hard to read every one of the 93 pages of posts so apologies if some or all already covered.

Most important things to me that I've learned over the year, probably:

* ride with the balls of your feet on the pegs, especially inside peg when cornering.

* practice shifting weigh across seat whenever possible so it'll be instinctive when you come to that fast decreasing radius turn

* get your inside knee out easier and further into a corner by shifting the ball of your foot onto the end of the peg (knee naturally points where toes are pointing).

* practice keeping the bike as upright as possible in corners so you do it without thinking.
not sure if thats right.?

as i was told to lean with the bike so if you come in to hot for a corner just lean the bike over more and you will be fine
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