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Old 11-28-2013, 09:24 AM   #3406
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I just wanted to address one issue here

there is a lot of chatter about this deal but none of us really know the terms of the contract JV had with Gas Gas. There are usually "get out of dodge" terms in the contracts for both the manufacturer and the rider. I do not want to speculate what was the deal but there was certainly more to it then we can see.

As far as the issue ...............

Gas Gas may not be happy but something tells me that JV had a pretty good "get-out-of-doge" clause in his contract with them otherwise that pressie may have sounded something like this " we were done wrong, JV is in breach of contract and we are taking him and Matighoffen to the hammer.."

my two cents FWIW
This is Rally folks and the whole focus for the year and is on one event - the big D

All other events are a bonus and a prelude to the big one, I would find it highly unlikely for such a clause to be available to either party before the event - that is unless injury related
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Old 11-28-2013, 09:33 AM   #3407
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party before the event - that is unless injury related
So, JV is injured ?
I think a new term will be created. From now on if this happens again, people will refer to is as ''He pulled a JV''

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Old 11-28-2013, 09:38 AM   #3408
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Old 11-28-2013, 09:51 AM   #3409
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So, JV is injured ?
I think a new term will be created. From now on if this happens again, people will refer to is as ''He pulled a JV''
JV = Joint Venture in my industry - that works
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Old 11-28-2013, 09:54 AM   #3410
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Doyle, this is no time to be taking a holiday! We've got questions only you can answer!
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So, for JV, to being able to swap teams, sth does not quite add up. May be GG has financial problems, may be JV has not being paid, may be , may be etc...


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Sorry Trev, this is the wrong forum if your going to try and pull that 'reasonable' crap
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Old 11-28-2013, 10:38 AM   #3411
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The factories are as loyal to the riders as the riders are to them. Contract is all that is there really. A manufacturer will break a contract with the rider as long as all the legalities are in place and sometimes even if they are not. Yes sure there are long term relationships that are fostered but all that goes up in flames if the economy gets shaky, marketing dollars are cut or the rally loving CEO leaves the helm. Why are we up in arms if a rider does so as well? The timing certainly is sensitive here but so is the opportunity. If there was something malicious ... well the courts would be involved for sure.

Gas Gas may not be happy but something tells me that JV had a pretty good "get-out-of-doge" clause in his contract with them otherwise that pressie may have sounded something like this " we were done wrong, JV is in breach of contract and we are taking him and Matighoffen to the hammer.."

my two cents FWIW
Mid season swap, no problem (maybe), late season swap, meh. Just over thirty days from the start when your sponsor has already laid out a lot of cash and shipped your support equipment with the rest of the goods out of Le Havre….that's another story. I will surely admit that there are a lot of particulars that we are all not privy to, until then in the spirit of the ADV salute, we speculate. I haven't seen anyone here (including me) calling for a horse and a rope to draw and quarter JV. I certainly don't wish him any ill will. JV is not the first rider in the modern era to show less than "high class." Cyril's mud-gate and Coma's fresh tire in the marathon come to mind. Maybe GG is in financial trouble, but having already shipped the kit for this years Dakar, I would imagine that their budget is okay for the even, just maybe not the rest of 2014.
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:25 AM   #3412
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To JV or not to JV, that is the question...It would seem that JV JV'd with KTM to get more JV, I mean gravy.

No one has been able to answer the question what a rally pilot earns per year...anyone know?

I expect guys like MC and CdP would be way up there, but how about someone like JV.

Anyway all this talk about JV, honour and all that other good stuff got me thinking about Kurt again. I mean what a contrast: He has been with KTM al his life. I suppose we could say the same about Coma and Faria?
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Old 11-29-2013, 04:49 PM   #3413
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Old 11-29-2013, 06:52 PM   #3414
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Maybe he will find one he likes soon - Nasser in the Dubai leg of the WRT - in a Focus here, but still Red Bull - him now driving under Monster in the Dakar must be testing this relationship just a little?

I wonder what his fleet of non work related cars looks like?
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Old 11-29-2013, 09:35 PM   #3415
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Maybe he will find one he likes soon - Nasser in the Dubai leg of the WRT - in a Focus here, but still Red Bull - him now driving under Monster in the Dakar must be testing this relationship just a little?

I wonder what his fleet of non work related cars looks like?
Who...? You mean Nasser All Attire?


* Being fair, I think that RG has had all of those brand labels on his pyjamas also, over the last several years...

... I blame it on all the caffein.
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:24 AM   #3416
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Guys, I think it's time we officially declared this as......


JordiGate










GasGasGate was just too much of a mouthful
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Old 12-02-2013, 09:43 AM   #3417
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JordiGate
Link to ASO or equiv website using this term, or null.
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Old 12-02-2013, 10:18 AM   #3418
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This dude is just plain bad ass on two and four wheels

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Old 12-02-2013, 10:26 AM   #3419
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This dude is just plain bad ass on two and four wheels

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Old 12-02-2013, 10:33 AM   #3420
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This dude is just plain bad ass on two and four wheels

Those things just do everything so effortlessly that I find them a titch boring (and the car category in general). I'd still drive one if given the chance. I'm rooting for his team-mate, Krzysztof.

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Haha! I thought the same thing. Looked pretty second hand. How are they going to be competitive with flaps like that? Probably says a lot about the Mini team. Maybe times are tight.
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