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Old 12-11-2013, 04:31 PM   #1771
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When I go from the concours to the bandit it feels like I'm on a dirt bike.

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Old 12-11-2013, 05:12 PM   #1772
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My 1200S smoothed out a bit when I did the valve clearance, they say the 1250 is very smooth in comparison. I have Hayabusa rearsets on mine which don't have the rubber isolated mounts, so after a few hrs on the slab my feet start getting a bit sleepy. OTOH slower roads w/ more posture changing ie cornering its not a problem. Not much vibration thru the bars; stock bar & weights.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:17 AM   #1773
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a question for you Bandit afficianados....

in 1999 I demo'd a 1200s. I owned a GSX1100G at the time. The G bike had a counterbalancer and was very smooth. I was surprised to find the Bandit was so buzzy. It was essentially the same motor...

Was the 2001 - 2006 1200s just as buzzy as the previous version? What about the 2007+ models with the 1250 motor? Buzzy or smooth? I'm not generally bothered by some vibration (rode a Concours for 8 years), but the 1200s I rode vibrated enough that I bought the Concours instead.

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The GSX 1250 is very smooth; no significant vibration at any speed with mine.
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Old 12-12-2013, 06:23 AM   #1774
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I've been leaning more towards the bandit, and I like the sound of that.


Haven't had the chance to sit on one yet, I'm not a big fan of the huge tourers like the concours or fjr.
I know it's a Bandit thread, but look at the Ninja 1000 also.
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Old 12-12-2013, 09:57 AM   #1775
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I know it's a Bandit thread, but look at the Ninja 1000 also.
When I bought my GSX, I was deciding between it and the Ninja 1000. The lack of ABS on the Ninja that year (2011,) and a big difference in insurance cost tipped the scales to the GSX. I would like to have the Ninja at some point, but it is $1400 more per year with my company. I might be able to shop around and do better if I ever do decide to change bikes. I like the GSX enough that I don't feel too tempted yet. That 2014 Ninja with bags does look good though...
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:17 AM   #1776
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I know it's a Bandit thread, but look at the Ninja 1000 also.
Ninja 1ks are a bit out of my price range, I'm mostly looking at Sprint/tiger 1050's and the bandit 1250
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:21 AM   #1777
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When I bought my GSX, I was deciding between it and the Ninja 1000. The lack of ABS on the Ninja that year (2011,) and a big difference in insurance cost tipped the scales to the GSX. I would like to have the Ninja at some point, but it is $1400 more per year with my company. I might be able to shop around and do better if I ever do decide to change bikes. I like the GSX enough that I don't feel too tempted yet. That 2014 Ninja with bags does look good though...

Difference between it being called a Ninja and the Bandit not having the 'R' after the GSX.

I know what you mean on the insurance aspect. I bought a Ninja 250 for my daughter, I pay more on it for insurance than I do for my Concours 14!!!

I have ridden the previous N1K, and I liked it. But I like the shaft of the Connie for the low maintenance. That and I don't have to buy extra bags to have bags.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:21 AM   #1778
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Ninja 1ks are a bit out of my price range, I'm mostly looking at Sprint/tiger 1050's and the bandit 1250

I can understand.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:29 AM   #1779
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I've never owned one but I've spent the last decade on the verge of buying one...long story.

2002 was the oil burning era IIRC, something about rings. Google.

There are some deals on the older bikes, I'm torn between the simplicity and cost of the classics vs. the FI and refinement of the new bike. I guess when you can get an '07 for less than $5K it becomes a moot point.
My 08 was under 5 with 3 piece GIVI boxes,3 windshields,9K miles on it.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:10 PM   #1780
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Ninja 1ks are a bit out of my price range, I'm mostly looking at Sprint/tiger 1050's and the bandit 1250
Oh, I hadn't seen where you were considering a Tiger 1050. I've been riding a really nice one (major suspension upgrade) since September.

I hardly ride the Bandit but I will NEVER sell it. When I do ride it, it feels like I'm riding a 600 with serious balls.

The Tiger is a little awkward at low speeds (especially two up) because it's tall. Once at speed it grooves like you wouldn't believe. I don't steer through sweepers I just "think" through them. It's art.

They are both all day comfortable bikes. If you want more of a comparison I'm happy to add to the thread. Or I can point you to a comparison I made in a day tripping report (it includes video of riding in quite wet conditions at speeds that may not have been leo approved).
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Old 12-13-2013, 01:32 PM   #1781
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I'd appreciate the link to the trip report.


I commute by bike and don't own a car and need something that's practical for 75% freeway commuting and 25% city riding, and I've heard that both the 1050 and 1250 engines have gobs of low end torque, but still have plenty of power left over for the freeway.

I know that there are other similar bikes out there, but I get caught in the rain a LOT, and would like something with ABS, which limits choices severely.


The tiger seems like a great bike, but the upright position on my magna is hard on my back, so I was leaning a bit more to the Sprint and bandit.
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Old 12-14-2013, 09:45 AM   #1782
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I commute on my 1200S all the time. I have it set up with givi bags for my tools, raingear etc. I really like the simplicity wrt working on it and parts availability- there are a few "usual" fix/upgrades (jets, suspension, clutch) which really help the bike. Weight is considerable but lighter than the modern sport-touring bikes, I get 45mpg routinely- less if I get a batch of bad gas. My commute is a 20-40 minute ride each way, though on my longer getaway rides I usually go 7-9hrs in a day, last year the wife was stressing out so I pulled a 16hr stretch to make it home in one day. I did put handlebar risers on but I am using the stock bars & seat. It makes for a slightly leaned forward posture- my biggest physical issue is tendency to develop a pinched nerve in my neck during long rides (> 4hrs or so)

My '02 is not a burner, there is a serial # range where the problem is reported.

Gives me a big smile every time I head out of the driveway... :) The Bandit is great in traffic; if you need to respond quickly, just drop a gear and hit the gas even if you were poking along at 3k.

ABS and FI are a better idea no question but these late generation carbs are pretty good when clean & rejetted.

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Old 12-15-2013, 10:10 AM   #1783
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Gives me a big smile every time I head out of the driveway... :) The Bandit is great in traffic; if you need to respond quickly, just drop a gear and hit the gas even if you were poking along at 3k.

Greg

On my 1997 1200s If I were "poking along" at 3k an dropped a gear and pin it, I'd be on the ground behind the bike

I could only dream about 45 mpg though, I'd have to get off and push for that kind of economy.
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Old 12-15-2013, 02:41 PM   #1784
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Lol, mine has a stage 1 w/ airbox mod & timing advance but no other hi performance stuff, stock sprockets too. OTOH with all the torque I dont pin it very often...
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Old 12-16-2013, 02:11 PM   #1785
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Are the OEM panniers big enough to fit a full faced helmet?
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