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Old 12-19-2013, 07:51 AM   #18916
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probably a stretched out IMS 3.2

You would be stretched out too if you had been straddling a xrr frame for 10 years straight.

I am going to have to look tonight and figure out who made my tank, it is bothering me now.
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Old 12-19-2013, 08:11 AM   #18917
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There is the stock 2.5
Ims 3.2
Ims 4.6
Ims 7.something
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And safari?

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Old 12-19-2013, 08:40 AM   #18918
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Does it really make that much of a difference? It's actually right at 18.5mm, would that half mm make a difference? What does a worn needle and seat look like? Everything inside looks good from what I can tell.
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Old 12-19-2013, 08:55 AM   #18919
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[QUOTE=mitchn06;22675718]I remember one time after I had the carb completely apart and struggled hardcore to start it. Ended up being idle screw being turned out way too far, even thigh it seemed right. Started at half throttle, the. I knew it was way off. That's all I got for you.

Good day Mitch.
I got the pig started! yeaha. but she then idles for a short while then dies. Could it be that the float level is off? its really freaky. Today i changed back to stock tank. then tried it again. Same story. started on second kick, idles for a about 1min then died. Now i cannot get her started! aarrrggghhh not sure what else to check.

is she maybe running too lean and this then heats her up? not sure 1min would not overheat her....


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Old 12-19-2013, 09:00 AM   #18920
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Double check for fuel flow. You can also put a clear tube on the drain and hold it up to check fuel level in bowl.

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Old 12-19-2013, 09:13 AM   #18921
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I remember one time after I had the carb completely apart and struggled hardcore to start it. Ended up being idle screw being turned out way too far, even thigh it seemed right. Started at half throttle, the. I knew it was way off. That's all I got for you.

Good day Mitch.
I got the pig started! yeaha. but she then idles for a short while then dies. Could it be that the float level is off? its really freaky. Today i changed back to stock tank. then tried it again. Same story. started on second kick, idles for a about 1min then died. Now i cannot get her started! aarrrggghhh not sure what else to check.

is she maybe running too lean and this then heats her up? not sure 1min would not overheat her....



Johann, I'm guessing you have everything cleaned, what are your jets, gas flowing? Float set right? No air leaks around carb rubbers? Mix screw (start 2.5 turns out from lightly seated) idle??? Just gotta get it started first and feather the throttle. If you can feather it and it runs, run your idle screw in.


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Old 12-19-2013, 09:38 AM   #18922
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Johann, I'm guessing you have everything cleaned, what are your jets, gas flowing? Float set right? No air leaks around carb rubbers? Mix screw (start 2.5 turns out from lightly seated) idle??? Just gotta get it started first and feather the throttle. If you can feather it and it runs, run your idle screw in.


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Yip, cleaned carb twice.

Idle screw is ok, she cold starts easily. the trick is after one minute she dies. then i cannot get her re-started.

I guess what you are saying is that she is behaving as if you leaving the choke on then after she heats up she will splutter and die?
I will lower her idling a little tomorrow. to see if that is the issue.

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30 degrees C today.
New valves but Valve clearance checked twice and they are in speck.

PS how do you check for air leaks on the rubber airbox boot? beside looking for the obvious.

What would symptoms be if their is a air leak in the boot or boot joints to the air box?

Thanx for the advice.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:42 AM   #18923
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Yip, cleaned carb twice.

Idle screw is ok, she cold starts easily. the trick is after one minute she dies. then i cannot get her re-started.

I guess what you are saying is that she is behaving as if you leaving the choke on then after she heats up she will splutter and die?
I will lower her idling a little tomorrow. to see if that is the issue.

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Fully uncorked
900m above sea-level
30 degrees C today.
New valves but Valve clearance checked twice and they are in speck.

Thanx for the advice.
pilot is too low. if you have a 68s, put it in, might even need the 70s with the hotter cam in it.
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Old 12-19-2013, 09:52 AM   #18924
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pilot is too low. if you have a 68s, put it in, might even need the 70s with the hotter cam in it.
Cool Thanx for quick reply,

I played around with Jetting today.

I had a half cutout air box( just top triangle) closed it off today and then put 65 back in. she started easier with 65 than 68.

The trick is that today was a "cold" day here it normally goes upto 35-40 degrees C here and then the 68 would be too rich.... i think?

Um so it seams the issue is the same even though i have swopped pilot jets.

PS needle is on forth clip.

fuel screw 2 turns out.

I will tweak the settings a little tomorrow and let you know how she runs.
thanx again for the advice,
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Old 12-19-2013, 03:48 PM   #18925
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Here you go -


Make sure the pilot jet is installed screwed all the way in per the instruction above.
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Old 12-19-2013, 06:42 PM   #18926
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XR650R High rise bars. How high?

When I stand up for extended periods I find I have to bend over too far. As a result, Im looking at adding some hi-rise bars to my XR such as ATV bars with a 4.5" rise and perhaps a handlebar riser.

How high can I go before the cables need replacing?
Whats the highest other people are running?
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Old 12-19-2013, 06:44 PM   #18927
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When I stand up for extended periods I find I have to bend over too far. As a result, Im looking at adding some hi-rise bars to my XR such as ATV bars with a 4.5" rise and perhaps a handlebar riser.

How high can I go before the cables need replacing?
Whats the highest other people are running?

I run rox risers 2", they help, but I still need to go higher. I'm 6'4.


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Old 12-19-2013, 06:44 PM   #18928
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When I stand up for extended periods I find I have to bend over too far. As a result, Im looking at adding some hi-rise bars to my XR such as ATV bars with a 4.5" rise and perhaps a handlebar riser.

How high can I go before the cables need replacing?
Whats the highest other people are running?
Pastrana fmx with big bar adapters are the tallest you can go without cable extensions. I run these. They are a bit narrow and have almost no pullback. Still a bit crammed but good enough.


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Old 12-19-2013, 10:56 PM   #18929
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[QUOTE=Johann XR650R;23024295][QUOTE=mitchn06;22675718]I remember one time after I had the carb completely apart and struggled hardcore to start it. Ended up being idle screw being turned out way too far, even thigh it seemed right. Started at half throttle, the. I knew it was way off. That's all I got for you.

Good day Mitch.
I got the pig started! yeaha. but she then idles for a short while then dies. Could it be that the float level is off? its really freaky. Today i changed back to stock tank. then tried it again. Same story. started on second kick, idles for a about 1min then died. Now i cannot get her started! aarrrggghhh not sure what else to check.

is she maybe running too lean and this then heats her up? not sure 1min would not overheat her....




Mine will run for quite some time with the taps turned off - certainly more than a minute
Put a rag under the carby, take the float bowl cap off (inspect for foreign matter while it's off) and turn on the taps fuel should flow out freely.
If not find out why
If it does its doubtfull a float level issue

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Old 12-20-2013, 12:17 AM   #18930
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