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Old 12-27-2013, 01:21 PM   #61
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Augh...... 50 degrees today and I have the flu..... I want to get the Stella together and take if for a ride

I need to head out and find some 7507 bulbs for the rear turn signals. They are also known as BAU15S. The holding prongs are not at 180' across but about 150'.... I have been told you can JAM the standard 1156 in, but I would prefer to have the correct bulb....



Another option I am contemplating is adding new sockets to the rear taillights that take an 1156 (single filament) or maybe a 1157 (dual filament) bulb. I was thinking of wiring the new sockets with a plug to give a much better electrical path for the turn signals. This would also allow me to easier run LED lights on the rear for increased visibility. If I use LED bulbs it would not place much of a strain on the electrical system... Maybe a trip to the You Pull it Junkyard is in order.

Has anyone tried this, and had good or bad luck?
I made a tail light assembly and put leds in the round fixtures. Works fine. Bright!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2982116...n/photostream/
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Old 12-27-2013, 01:24 PM   #62
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I made a tail light assembly and put leds in the round fixtures. Works fine. Bright!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2982116...n/photostream/

Those taillights look awesome scootrboi!!!!
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Old 12-27-2013, 03:45 PM   #63
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After nearly 4 years and 10,000 miles, I have had a stator burn out, but all the bulbs are original, as unbelievable as that sounds.

The Stella has an oddball electrical system. Even though it has a battery, the ignition cannot be run off the battery. There are 5 coils on the stator, and one of them only powers the ignition. The CDI box requires A/C current directly from the stator. The good part about that is that it will start and run with a completely dead battery, or even without a battery, the bad part is, if that coil fails, it will not run off the battery like a modern scooter or motorcycle. The charging system keeps the battery charged, but I doubt it has much extra capacity for hooking up electrical accessories. I was able to find a sealed MF battery for it here http://www.monsterscooterparts.com/ytx9bsbattery.html
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Old 12-27-2013, 04:02 PM   #64
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Those taillights look awesome scootrboi!!!!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29821169@N06/9278883062 My other Heinkel with a different custom tailpiece, LEDs.
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Old 12-29-2013, 04:20 PM   #65
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1 Amp charger

I am having this installed on my battery free P200E.

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Old 12-30-2013, 01:01 PM   #66
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I am having this installed on my battery free P200E.

http://www.modcharger.co.uk
Looks like a cool item. I think the Stella already has a conversion for 12VDC doesn't it? Although in second thought WITH a battery the battery acts to keep the voltage at a similar level so as to not blow bulbs as rapidly....

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Old 12-30-2013, 02:55 PM   #67
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Stella is 12v but the mod charger will charge a phone / GPS even if you don't have a battery on your scooter.
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Old 12-30-2013, 03:03 PM   #68
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My Stella still has a battery, but I removed the electric starter. I saw a "battery eliminator" somewhere that you could use to replace the battery, and not have problems with blowing out bulbs, etc. The more possible trouble spots I can get rid of the better. The Stella is not a long distance scooter, so I don't need to charge anything.
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Old 12-30-2013, 11:20 PM   #69
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I removed the starter when I had the flywheel off to replace the stator. It was easy to get to, and I rarely ever used it. It was big and heavy, and I'm just the type that likes simplicity. It always starts with one or 2 kicks. I was told on what used to be stellaspeed (now scootercentral.com) that Stella starters are prone to early failure, and they are super expensive. So I wrapped it in newspaper and put it in a box in the closet. If I ever decide to sell the scooter, I can put it back on, and it will still work. I'll probably leave the battery.
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Old 01-02-2014, 01:22 PM   #70
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So....

My Stella had a burned headlight bulb when I got it. I replaced it and it almost immediately blew one side of the lamp out. I have now burned the 2nd side out. Does anyone have a test for the "switching unit". I have read that you can remove the switching unit from the bike, while others say it fries the system.... Does anyone have any long term knowledges of removing the system?

Here is what I found concerning removing the switching unit-

The way to by past the switching module is the following:

Either take te grey wire (AC power) and connnect it to the purple wire (pilot and tail lights). This will cause both lights to run when the motor is running.

Alternatively you can take the orange wire (DC power) and connect it to the purple wire. This will allow both tail and pilot lights to come on when the key is turned on but motor not running.


I was planning on checking the Stator first. Testing Your 12v Regulator with a Multimeter

http://scooterpromo.com/customer/sco...regulator.html

Please note that because the regulator is a giant zener diode, it is important that you note whether you are going positive (red) to negative (black) or negative to positive with the leads of your multimeter.

On a five pole regulator you should get the following readings:

Case to Ground (Black):
Red to Black: 0Ω (Zero Resistance)
Black to Red: 0Ω (Zero Resistance)
+B (Grey) to Ground (Black):
Red to Black: 0.02-0.04Ω
Black to Red: 0.02-0.04Ω
G (Yellow) to Ground (Black):
Red to Black: 2-3Ω
Black to Red:∞Ω (Infinite Resistance)
Ground (Black) to A (Violet, both):
Red to Black: ∞Ω (Infinite Resistance)
Black to Red: ∞Ω (Infinite Resistance)
+B (Grey) to G (Yellow):
Red to Black: ∞Ω (Infinite Resistance)
Black to Red: 2-3Ω
+B (Grey) to A (Violet):
Red to Black: ∞Ω (Infinite Resistance)
Black to Red: ∞Ω (Infinite Resistance)
G (Yellow) to A (Violet):
Red to Black: ∞Ω (Infinite Resistance)
Black to Red: ∞Ω (Infinite Resistance)
A (Violet) to A (Violet):
Red to Black: 0Ω (Zero Resistance)
Black to Red: 0Ω (Zero Resistance)
If you get ANY readings other than what is shown above chuck the regulator.

5-pole DC regulator: Please note that depending on the manufacturer of the regulator that the colors or the letters may be different. However, B+ always charges the battery. There will always be two AC input slots (A/Violet on this regulator). Unless you have a late 70s P200, there will always be a redundant ground slot (the 4-pole regulator only grounds off of its case). And the final slot is your DC out slot.

3-pole AC regulator: The B+ slot is missing on the 3-pole AC regulators since there is no battery to charge. Since no rectifying is taking place on this box the two AC input slots are interchangeable, attach an input wire to one and regulated AC will come out the other.


Anyone have any firsthand experience???
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Old 01-02-2014, 05:34 PM   #71
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I removed the switching unit from mine, along with that really annoying turn signal beeper, and have had no problems. But I never had any problems before removing it either. I removed it because I had everything apart, and it is a known trouble spot. All my bulbs are original, after over 10,000 miles. I've worked on so many things lately I don't remember exactly how I did it, but you can find out on scootercentral.com, or just Google "Stella switching module" It is probably a good thing to get rid of it even if it is not the problem. It eliminates one more failure prone part, and there are no negative issues with removing it. Those things have been known to actually catch on fire.
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I've worked on so many things lately I don't remember exactly how I did it, but you can find out on scootercentral.com, or just Google "Stella switching module" It is probably a good thing to get rid of it even if it is not the problem. It eliminates one more failure prone part, and there are no negative issues with removing it. Those things have been known to actually catch on fire.
Thanks Jerry!

I found how to, I was more looking for information about the ramifications of doing it. Sounds like you have had great results.
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Regarding your original headlight problem- I had the same issue last year on my Vespa- started blowing headlight bulbs and the speedo lamp as well. Traced it back to a number of things, although I can't be sure what failed first-

I had removed my stator from the engine to replace the crankshaft oil seal. Due to the age and brittle state of my stator wires several broke. I replaced these. Headlights were still blowing. Checked the fuse off the battery- it had blown, replaced it- bulbs still blew. Replaced the Voltage regulator, all is well. Since everything was fine before I did the seal replacement I suspect the regulator/fuse went after the wires were cracked in the stator. Regardless, I've had no further issues with it at all for the past year....

Don't know how much of this carries over to the Stella, and certainly don't think your wiring is as old and brittle as mine was, but if stators are a problem you might check yours for a broken or frayed wire while doing your other checks....
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Spent some time tinkering on the Stella over the last few days while taking care of my Mom. Pulled all of the connectors and made sure the connections were clean and added dielectric grease to the connections. I was going to do the test on the voltage regulator, but it is a different set up than the diagram I previously posted. I did find a wired for the horn that required re soldering. Everything else looks like it is in good condition.



When I pulled the rack off to sandblast and paint, the nut that WAS welded to the frame broke loose. I removed the gas and oil tank so I could access the bolt. I think I am going to clean it up and JB weld it back in place. You can pull up on it to get it tight as long as it stays in place after the tank is reinstalled.

The petcock bolds were very loose, and I tightened them but it still allows gas to flow through when in the off position. I will order a new gasket and hopefully this will fix the issue. I will replace the gas and Oil injector hoses while they are out.




While the tank is out I have access to the rear turn signal wires. I am going to hit up the You Pull It Junkyard and get new sockets that I will mount in the rear lens housings. I am going to run LED's and put 1157 style bulbs in. I will tap into the rear tail light so it has running lights in addition to the blinkers. I will install quick disconnect plugs which I think will work much better than the current system that the Stella uses. A sleigh bit less user friendly, but I think it will make a big difference in the connection and visibility.


Pulled the Switching unit out, and will take the unit to the local electronics store to see if I can get a plug that matches. I will use the plug to join the Purple and orang wire together rather than cutting and splicing the wires. This way if I decide it needs the unit, it will be an easier replacement.

About to order a bunch of small parts for her, and then it will be a massive crunch to put it back together in time for the Cold Weather Challenge. To bad it isn't together right now as we have seen some COLD temperatures....

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