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Old 12-23-2013, 07:28 PM   #46
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I took the Versys for a good ride last Sunday, including 30-40kms of dirt roads. Im finding with the front forks, while well sprung, the compression damping is too hard. Small bumps are transferred through the forks, to the rider.
When l modified the forks, l fitted both the Honda XLR valves to the bottom of the Versys cartridges. Think this may be my problem, as originally the Versys forks only had a compression valve in the left fork.
I pulled the forks out last night and tooks Barts advice and refitted the dampening adjuster to the right fork. I also removed the Honda compression damping valve from the right fork, and replaced the Honda valve with the original Versys valve in the left fork.
I might get out for a Xmas eve ride to see if its any better later. Otherwise l might look at reducing the preload on the front springs by shortening them a bit.
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Old 12-26-2013, 01:55 PM   #47
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It sounds like you need to set the sag first and then start on the damping.

I reduced the shim size in my compression valves here

http://www.versys.co.uk/index.php/to...html#msg131438

Also thiner oil may work as well as the above.

Good luck.
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Old 12-26-2013, 10:16 PM   #48
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It sounds like you need to set the sag first and then start on the damping.

I reduced the shim size in my compression valves here

http://www.versys.co.uk/index.php/to...html#msg131438

Also thiner oil may work as well as the above.

Good luck.
Thanks Bart. I'm wondering if some of my front suspension woes are compounded by the heavy, steel rimmed, sportster front wheel?

Before I spend too much more time on the front end, I'll replace the front wheel with something lighter. Missed out on an alloy BMW wheel the other day on ebay. Got sniped with one second to go!
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Old 01-09-2014, 11:56 PM   #49
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Well I finally got around to updating the headlights, wasn't happy with the look of the last lights. I picked these up at the wreckers for 90 bucks.

I'm still having dramas with he front suspension. I read somewhere that the rebound damping should be 4 times stronger than the compression damping. My compression damping is about the same as the rebound damping so I need to do something about reducing it.
Had a nice ride yesterday in the mountains near my home.
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:27 AM   #50
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Looks fantastic!
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:45 AM   #51
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Coming along nicely

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Old 01-11-2014, 01:51 AM   #52
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Thanks Bart, you've cleared that up for me. I'll give it a go next week and report back.
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Old 01-11-2014, 08:35 AM   #53
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I read somewhere that the rebound damping should be 4 times stronger than the compression damping.
While this is true for the rear shock, I am not sure it is for the forks of an offroad bike. Have you tried a lighter oil?
I pressume it is the high speed compression you complain about, right?
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:41 PM   #54
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Well I've been riding the Versys for a few months now and while I'm pretty happy with it overall, I'm still not happy with the forks. I was going to take the bike to a suspension guru, but couldn't find one close to me, so when I found a complete YZ250 front end on Gumtree near me for just $150.....I got thinking how hard could it be to fit these

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Due to the diameter of the YZ fork uppers, I used the YZ triple clamps and to my surprise its almost a simple swap. The lower bearing I used is a 55mm X 30mm tapered roller bearing and it fits fine. The upper bearing is a bit trickier. I needed a 55 x 28mm bearing but no-one makes them so I used a 52 x 28 tapered roller bearing and used strips of steel to shim the upper bearing cup into the steering head. Worked OK I think. Time will tell if its tight enough.
I had to alter the spacers I made for the front wheel to centre it, but to my absolute amazement, the Versys front axle is a perfect fit in the YZ forks.

I just have to find a nut to put on the threaded end and its sweet!

Hoe it looks all bolted up
Tomorrow I'll look at fitting the brake disc and caliper.
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Old 03-29-2014, 02:45 AM   #55
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Good work. Might be worthwhile to drop it off at a suspension shop. They could revalve/respring with a bit of expertise.
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:09 AM   #56
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Well got the YZ250 forks mounted, and the Goldwing wheel fitted after removing the right hand disc. I'm waiting on a braided brakeline to replace the Versys twin caliper lines.
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Old 04-21-2014, 01:14 AM   #57
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I used some 8mm ally plate to adapt the Versys disc to the Goldwing hub.
It all fits quite neatly to the YZ forks.
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Old 04-21-2014, 09:16 AM   #58
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Bad ass! Can't wait to hear how it rides!
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Old 04-22-2014, 01:17 AM   #59
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I'm now waiting on the rebuilt, resprung and revalved R6 shock to arrive and I can get on with getting it set up properly.
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Old 05-06-2014, 01:46 AM   #60
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So my rebuilt R6 shock is fitted, the Goldwing front wheel is on and the YZ forks are sorted. Went on a 400+ km ride on the weekend and I'm really happy with the handling on road. Did some fast dirt road on the way home, and I've noticed a problem with the handling.

Due to the length of the forks, the rake and trail are more than is ideal, and this becomes apparent when trying to negotiate fastish corners on the dirt. It goes round corners like a bus!
I think I need to reduce the rake/trail somehow to something more inline with modern dirtbike figures, around 25-27 degrees.
I really don't want to alter the frame, and am thinking about some sort of adjustable triple clamp to pull in the rake a couple of degrees.
Does anyone know how I can achieve this without cutting and welding the frame?
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