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Old 01-28-2014, 11:09 PM   #91
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Had a chance to try one on today at a local shop. They only had the s/m size and according to the size chart I should be smack dab in the middle of the large/xl chart.
SIZING: - weight spec is ours.
S/M 160-172cm (53-58) 125 - 160 lbs
L/XL 172-184cm (58-60) 165 - 200 lbs
XXL 184-196cm (60-66) 190 - 225 lbs

I am 5'10 and 166#. The s/m was a bit snug fitting over the belly region when zipping up, but not impossible to zip. Just had tug on the material a bit to get the zippers to join. Then it was easy to zip up. Once on, the thing was VERY comfortable and the armor was nice and snug without being uncomfortable. Stayed in place as well.
I am wondering if I should try on the l/xl just to see what it feels like being that the chart states thats the one I should wear. I would hate to get the s/m just because it is in stock at the moment only to find out later there is too much stress on the material and zippers and cause the thing to fail on me. I did test the material and it still had room to stretch.
Any thoughts on this, or some comparisons on what sizes you all are using and your dimentions.?
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:22 AM   #92
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wakewop, I don't know if you're like me, but my weight varies a bit during the year. Right now I'm 230#, but that's the heaviest I get. Within a month or so I should be back down to 215 or 210#

If you're on the light end of your weight variance, I would wait and get the L/XL. If you're at the heavier end of your weight, I'd get the S/M.

You can get any size from Atomic-Moto. Just sayin'! (No, I'm not a paid shill, I just like Brian and his customer service.)
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Old 01-29-2014, 01:16 PM   #93
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Thanks for the info. I'm pretty steady with my weight. 164-166 for the past 3 years. Due to a family history of heart clogging, I have to keep in shape and watch what I eat. I'm going to wait and fry on the l xl size. I will see which size keeps the armor in place better and overall fit. Biggest issue I find with all my jackets and pants is that the armor sections can be too loose and slide around easily when not snug enough. For some strange reason, only 1 place in town seems to carry the airfit even though many are leatt dealers.
Kind of a pain. And I will be buying from an online supporter such as atomic. The local store is $50 more.
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:14 AM   #94
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So as I think more and more about it, this will most likely end up my next gear upgrade.

I really thought i wanted a hard shell type armor suit (a la the "Adventure" suit Leatt has). However, with the couple of simple little crashes I had this past weekend in Death Valley, it became apparent that the soft shell type armor is probably best (at least for me). The reason I say this is that the armor that is in the BMW Rally 2 Pro I currently use when riding in the desert is truly second to none. However, I ran into a situation this weekend that has me wanting to make this change sooner; the main front zipper took a dump in the jacket.

It this was a just a simple over jacket, who cares. But since that zipper is an integral part of the solution, then it does matter. Although I'm going to just get the zipper fixed, I'll feel more comfortable with the armor being a separate unit in the overall solution.

Also, to be clear, the R2P jacket is over 7 years old and survived COUNTLESS crashes and after washed, still looks new. So I absolutely still love the jacket, but really need a more complete solution (chest) these days.
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Old 03-19-2014, 04:12 PM   #95
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Well, I had the new Airfit 3DF body protector sitting on my front porch today. I actually had the original 3DF body protector which I rode in for about two weeks before some seams started seperating, and then another two weeks before the front zipper broke.

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Well, after having the body protector for two months, and wearing it less than 20 times before waiting for over a month for a response from Leatt's warranty department, I can no longer recommend the Body Protector.

The back story from the thread http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=882244 :

After wearing the body protector a couple of times, I noticed some of the seams, particularly at the shoulder and under the armpit, coming unstiched. Then I took the body protector with me on a two week trip through the maritime provinces of Canada. Halfway through that trip, the zipper slider fell off. So now I have no zipper and the stiching is coming un-done.

I contacted Leatt to start a warranty claim, sent along pictures as requested, then waited over a month until I got sick of waiting and prompted them for a response.

The response came yesterday - warranty department decided it wasn't covered. They did offer me "a discount on a new one". We'll see what the discount is, but I'm hesitant to invest in something that fails so easily. I'm thinking I'll try the Forcefield ArmorPro shirt, though it's twice as expensive.

So in the end, although I was hesitant to try the new AirFit due to the warranty problems I had with the first one, the discount they offered was acceptable enough that it was worth the shot.

Since I'm probably the only one here who has had both, I'll give my quick impressions. I haven't had a chance to ride yet, and won't for a while. Still a couple of feet of snow in my back yard, and it's shaping up to be a long mud season.

As far as weight, the only scale I have is a bathroom scale, and I weighed the same to 0.1 lbs. with both the original and the AirFit on. I'd guess that the Airfit might be a *little* lighter, but weight savings made in the armor is probably lost in the straps that connect the chest protector to the back protector.

The chest protector still seems like it's a little low, but that's probably so it can incorporate a neck brace, which I don't have (yet). Those straps add an extra step to getting into and out of the AirFit Body protector.

The zipper seems like it's still the thin, light-weight thing, so hopefully it'll hold up.

Just like someone above mentioned, I accidentally stuck my hand in the armor pocket for the elbows trying to get the sleeves on. Personal preference here, but I prefer the gray color of the old version to the black of the new.

The armor was stiffer than the old 3DF's armor, but it was also around 30 degrees when I put it on (it had been sitting on my front porch outside). It did seem to soften up a bit as I wore it, but I didn't leave it on much longer than to take pictures.

The biceps pad and the hip/floating rib pads are just single-density foam. The elbow, shoulder, back and chest pads are heavier-duty stuff.

Fit's about the same as the original. I'm 6'4, 225-230 lbs, depend on how much I've eaten in a day. I've got long arms (6'10" wing span). I have around a 44" chest and a 35" waist. The arms didn't feel too short. Elbow pads sat about right. The straps on the side I tightened about halfway. Folks with beer guts might have trouble zipping up over their bellies.

This is a size XXL.

Here's some pics.





Compared to the old:






And without my ugly mug:



Compared to old (broken zipper, so I pinned the top):


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Old 03-20-2014, 04:35 AM   #96
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Zeeede, what size is your Airfit 3DF?
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:19 AM   #97
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Zeeede, what size is your Airfit 3DF?
Sorry, thought I mentioned that. I edited my post.

It's an XXL.

I'm a little wary buying XXL stuff (and even XL stuff) because I tend to swim in it around the mid section. I have broad shoulders but a narrow waist and not much of a gut (I have a little extra love handle right now, but that's 'cos we're wrapping up the end of ski season. Once bicycle season starts, it should melt away in about a month).

This fits fine around the middle. That's why I warned folks with beer guts. The fabric is pretty stretchy, but I don't think there's as much room there as a normal XXL jacket would have.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:08 AM   #98
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Hard to believe they get Level 2 out of the front and back pads as they appear so thin. But possible. It appears you aren't supposed to wear an underlayer, which could be interesting in terms of sweat and funkiness. How do you wash it?
Also, what is the actual weight? Got one of those spring scales for weighing fish? Hang it on that.

I would be interested in comparing it to what I have now, which is:
http://www.solomotoparts.com/Forcefi...FcWTfgodzwQAiw

Heavy, but thoroughly crash tested. Advantage, it comes off fast so you can make a quick t-shirt change.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:25 AM   #99
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Sorry, thought I mentioned that. I edited my post.

It's an XXL.

I'm a little wary buying XXL stuff (and even XL stuff) because I tend to swim in it around the mid section. I have broad shoulders but a narrow waist and not much of a gut (I have a little extra love handle right now, but that's 'cos we're wrapping up the end of ski season. Once bicycle season starts, it should melt away in about a month).

This fits fine around the middle. That's why I warned folks with beer guts. The fabric is pretty stretchy, but I don't think there's as much room there as a normal XXL jacket would have.
Thank you. We have very similar build, but I am 6'1'' and 190 pounds, athletic build. I wear suits in EU 52 long size, I believe that's USA 42 long. Just between sizes I guess, so I am afraid if XXL will be to large. What do you think?
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:25 AM   #100
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I would say try one on at a local shop if possible. I am between sizes and can't decide which to go with. Prob the slugger fitting one because the armor will stay in place better.
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Old 03-20-2014, 09:58 AM   #101
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Thank you. We have very similar build, but I am 6'1'' and 190 pounds, athletic build. I wear suits in EU 52 long size, I believe that's USA 42 long. Just between sizes I guess, so I am afraid if XXL will be to large. What do you think?

Leatt's sizing chart is based only on height. I went with the XXL based only on height and am not unhappy with the sizing.

AtomicMoto adds in some weights, too.

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SIZING: - These run slightly small. The height spec is from Leatt, the weight spec is ours.
S/M 160-172cm (53-58) 125 - 160 lbs
L/XL 172-184cm (58-60) 165 - 200 lbs
XXL 184-196cm (60-66) 190 - 225 lbs
http://www.atomic-moto.com/Leatt-3DF...or_p_1489.html


It does look like you'd be between sizes. I'd say if you don't have monkey arms (so you're not worried about sleeve length) and you want a snug fit with no layering under, go with the L/XL.

If you'd like to wear a thin base layer or you'd occasionally want to squeeze a heated vest under there (keeps you nice and toasty at its lowest setting squeezed against your skin by the protector!) then go withe XXL.
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:03 AM   #102
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It appears you aren't supposed to wear an underlayer, which could be interesting in terms of sweat and funkiness. How do you wash it?
Also, what is the actual weight? Got one of those spring scales for weighing fish? Hang it on that.

I would be interested in comparing it to what I have now, which is:
http://www.solomotoparts.com/Forcefi...FcWTfgodzwQAiw

Heavy, but thoroughly crash tested. Advantage, it comes off fast so you can make a quick t-shirt change.
In the regular 3DF, I wore a "fitted" Under Armor shirt (UA has 3 fits, loose, fitted and compression) with no problem. When we were touring Canada in the fall, I also squeezed a heated vest in between the Body Protector and the UA shirt. Kept me nice and toasty with the Body Protector holding it snug against me.

I don't have any sort of scale other than the bathroom scale. I'll weigh myself with and without it if you'd like, but I can't guarantee its accuracy.

I wouldn't have any problem taking this thing off and changing the base layer either, other than on the original, it was hard to get the sleeves on over sweaty skin.

I wear mine for big-bike adventure riding on my Vstrom 1000 under a First Gear jacket with its stock pads removed. Fortunately I haven't had to crash test, other than falling over at 0 mph in sand-type-falls that come with riding a 600 lb. bike on dirt.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:28 PM   #103
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I am 5'10 and weigh 170# Normal build. No big belly, but have long arms.
I tried on the sm/med and it was quite snug, but also extremely comfortable. The armor was snug to my body and felt very secure. Unfortunately they did not have the L/xl to try on and compare. Hopefully I can get back to the store next week and do a side by side comparison to see which one will be the best fit/protection. I won't comprimise on the protection. If the l/xl armor slips around my arms, It is a no go. Has to be nice and snug.
One other note, the sm/med zipper was a tad of a pain going over my midsection. Had to tug the sides together in order to get it zipped up without stressing the zip area. Once on, the zipper seemed just fine and the whole mid section (belly area) had room to stretch more.
Again, once I had it zipped up and moved around, the comfort is outstanding. It felt like wearing an under armor shirt. Very lightweight compared to my thor impact rig.
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:10 PM   #104
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I am 5'10 and weigh 170# Normal build. No big belly, but have long arms.
I tried on the sm/med and it was quite snug, but also extremely comfortable. The armor was snug to my body and felt very secure. Unfortunately they did not have the L/xl to try on and compare. Hopefully I can get back to the store next week and do a side by side comparison to see which one will be the best fit/protection. I won't comprimise on the protection. If the l/xl armor slips around my arms, It is a no go. Has to be nice and snug.
One other note, the sm/med zipper was a tad of a pain going over my midsection. Had to tug the sides together in order to get it zipped up without stressing the zip area. Once on, the zipper seemed just fine and the whole mid section (belly area) had room to stretch more.
Again, once I had it zipped up and moved around, the comfort is outstanding. It felt like wearing an under armor shirt. Very lightweight compared to my thor impact rig.
What are you wearing for arm protection now? Slippage is a concern with a design that has pads integrated with a fabric. On the Forcefield, you can tighten the velcro as needed to hold. But, this suit looks promising; definitely need to try on.
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Old 03-20-2014, 02:51 PM   #105
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One other note, the sm/med zipper was a tad of a pain going over my midsection. Had to tug the sides together in order to get it zipped up without stressing the zip area. Once on, the zipper seemed just fine and the whole mid section (belly area) had room to stretch more.
Again, once I had it zipped up and moved around, the comfort is outstanding. It felt like wearing an under armor shirt. Very lightweight compared to my thor impact rig.
I've had the same experience with mine. Once it's zipped up, it is super comfortable.
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