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Old 02-05-2014, 06:13 PM   #16
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if you're meaning me, that is a post I saved from a thread that was on here a while back.
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:47 PM   #17
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Kel
I hope your not feeling too ripped off, you haven't been abused any more than anyone else.

Some of Jays early work suffered if used hard and loaded heavy. If he has offered to upgrade your mounts and frame at a reasonable cost that may be money well spent, his newer stuff is better.

I bought my first sidecar from a private party it had been assembled by another NW sidecar shop (not Jays) it was a snafu from the start. I thought WTF how can these jerks get away with this nonsense, gaining knowledge in the sidecar business is expensive.

Claude and Brock helped me out so I gave Claude my business on the next sidecar.25k + miles killed some venison been into the ditch and thru the ditch too the bean field, crossed up several times no structural issues.On the other hand it's a big heavy panzer.DB
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Old 02-05-2014, 06:59 PM   #18
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[QUOTE=Dan Alexander;23398372]
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By the way.....Take a very close look at the upper front mount where it connects to the sidecar frame itself.

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Old 02-05-2014, 07:56 PM   #19
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Old 02-05-2014, 08:19 PM   #20
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Biting my tongue

I have never been the silent on an issue.. but I
been mulling this over.

If he send the parts and upgrades I will have them installed here by a trust sc mechanic that has been referred to me.

That way I don't have to pay for shipping it there and back.

Plus the cost to take it apart and then put it back together.

I think I would be ahead if the upgrades are done correctly.

Not do I want 3 point or stay with two points from the frame to the bike.
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:10 AM   #21
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Onward and forward.
AZ sidecar installers according to the the assoc.
http://www.sidecar.com/MapResult.asp?c=*&s=AZ&cty=USA
TX http://www.sidecar.com/MapResult.asp?c=*&s=TX&cty=USA

Given where you live Lowell Neff or Texas Sidecars and Perrys in TX are very good people to consult with.DB
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:00 AM   #22
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Send me a PM I have an early Jay build thats been redone..I'm not starting a war with anyone ,but just like give you some advice... Hopeully soon I'll get some updated pics on my rig from Claude hes redoing mine right now...
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:28 AM   #23
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Onward and forward.
AZ sidecar installers according to the the assoc.
http://www.sidecar.com/MapResult.asp?c=*&s=AZ&cty=USA
TX http://www.sidecar.com/MapResult.asp?c=*&s=TX&cty=USA

Given where you live Lowell Neff or Texas Sidecars and Perrys in TX are very good people to consult with.DB

Tried calling Neff.. but I was told he has retired.
Paul J. Falinski gave me the referral to another person
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:32 AM   #24
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Yes, lowel has been retired so to speak for a while. Great guy and excellent work as well as a great reputation throughout all of th sidecar world. Try this: 2545 Zanella Way Unit C. Chico, CA 95928

(530) 520-7856
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Old 02-06-2014, 08:03 AM   #25
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The offer we have made is for $200 we will make all of the up grades to the frame that our current frames have. This would include two new style eye bolts that sell for $48 each. For another $200 we will have the frame powder coated so that it will be like new. We will loose money doing this but want to work with owners of our products.
When we started making these sidecars we built the frames like we did for street sidecars, as one of our employee's was involved in both California and Champion sidecars we did things the same way they did. Turns out while it works great on street sidecars and most dual sport sidecar but if they are worked hard off road over time we found that there are some things on the frames that can be made better. Remember we were building dual sport sidecars for about 5 years before any one else really started doing so and as such companies after us were able to learn from what we found worked and what could use some beefing up for off road. We started building dual sport sidecars as it is what I like to ride, I have ridden all of our dual sport sidecars (expect the expedition as my new R1200GSA has not come in yet) hard off road. I have ran AMA Enduro events with them, taken them on long trips both on and off road and in general tried to do every thing my customers would do I however have not had the same bike for years of testing. The sidecar in question we built about 7 years ago and 2 prior owners and as far as I know is showing no issues and may never.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:31 PM   #26
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offer taken

Jay
after consulting inspecting the M72 with my mechanic here.. we are convinced that the workshould be done by you and your company and will have it reinstalled back in AZ.

I am hoping this goodwill gesture by you will quell the misconceptions
of your customer service and that you stand behind your product.

I sent you an earlier PM this morning in scheduling a time to send the frame up and a reasonable amount of time that the repairs and shipment back to me.

I mentioned to you earlier that will be moving this car to a R1200GS in the future and that you should present the newest mounting points.

Thanks

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Old 02-07-2014, 01:45 PM   #27
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:24 PM   #28
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Sounds like a plan Kirk. Good talking to you the other day.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:26 PM   #29
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Good luck Kirk..I hope everything goes good..Nice talking to you...
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Old 02-20-2014, 02:19 PM   #30
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Clock is on

Bike is being picked up today and will be off to Jay next week.

I will look forward to getting it back and put some addition welds
to the frame to hold the iron weights.

Will keep thread up to date on what is going on.
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