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Old 03-10-2014, 08:09 AM   #106
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The ''elephant'' fairing I think is for both design and function. It is wide, where it needs to be to protect the navigation instruments and deflect the air from the rider and it is thin down below to create this unique effect. For sure you can distinguish it from the others


The kit in the bike that you chose to see, indeed it is far out. But the reason is that you do not have to look so far down when navigating. It has some +ves and -ves. The closer you have it on the handlebars the less pendulum effect, but the more down you have to look. If you carefully see the posture of this particular rider you can see that he has to lower his eyesight, let's say 45 degrees to see the roadbook. If it was mounted in the handlebars he would have to look 90 degrees down. Then again, the more these things stick out the more dangerous it is to hit you during riding in case sth goes out of balance with the fornt end...

That one seems even a bit high and close. A little Too In Your Face, but the real problem with that setup is the lack of sticker real estate. Even though I like the whole industrial/transformer thing.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:11 AM   #107
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All respect to the rider in question... and I understand (and agree) with the mechanics and principle of the handlebar mounted "pendulum" effect you describe Dimi...

But I think that rider induced fatigue and (lack of) concentration (ie. eyes focussed only three feet ahead on the piste) had more to do with the "surprise" incident depicted in the video (and the loop out restart manouver) than any inherrent design fault with the nav tower set up.

They are some wild goat tracks that Rainer and the Tuareg ORGA team have set out for this year!
I don't mean fault, don't get me wrong, I was discussing the problem of putting the Roadbook high compared to very low position as this for example:



This particular example does not seem to fit the bill (the one in the Video I mean) cause we have to do with surprise, terrain, fatigue. But I have seen in a series of bumps, or in one bump that the rider is get caught that the higher the roadbook the more chances there are to hit you in the face.

The pendulum effect I so far, know it is there because of the stationary tests. I have yet to notice it when riding


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That one seems even a bit high and close. A little Too In Your Face, but the real problem with that setup is the lack of sticker real estate. Even though I like the whole industrial/transformer thing.
+1 I am also a ''mad max'' approach guy
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:17 AM   #108
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"Sticker real estate" Stagehand The truth is finally out... about the "real" reason behind why rally fairings exist...
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edit: last shot: nice to see a G450X, and a Durrsma tank <--

looking back, I think there is something awesome about all these bikes.. I dunno whats differnet, altogether, but they are all looking really well set up as light rally, heavy enduro bikes.
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edit: last shot: nice to see a G450X, and a Durrsma tank <--

looking back, I think there is something awesome about all these bikes.. I dunno whats differnet, altogether, but they are all looking really well set up as light rally, heavy enduro bikes.
I like the semi factory look on these bikes, they remind me of the old days and one can see the amount of work that has gone into transforming them into Rally (lite) bikes.... All of them look awesome indeed!

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Old 03-10-2014, 09:01 AM   #112
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The dutch contingent seem to be taking it all in their stride...?
It's like bloody speedskating at the olympics
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Please feel free to post more pictures of the yellow VW Van, I love that thing for some reason!!


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And today's video

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Is this 'elephant ears' faring a matter of design or it has some purpose?



How come these kits stick out so much more then on 'proper' rally kits?
Is it the mounting or maybe the nakedness that makes it appear so?
FUGLY? I think it is more then just functional, even looks looks imho. Way better looking and more functional then most full blown fairings we see on this forum appear.

It doesnt come in orange (yet) but there's probably a spray can laying about, no?
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Keep it on the wheels and upright... if everyone else gets lost in the desert or ends up in a heap, then even the sub-sea-level dwellers are in with a shot at gold...?
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Keep it on the wheels and upright... if everyone else gets lost in the desert or ends up in a heap, then even the sub-sea-level dwellers are in with a shot at gold...?

LOL

About the roadbook setups people running, I prefer them lower and closers to the bars as most riders have them on the Tuareg. I guess on a big stable 690 you can have 'm further out and more at an angle (handy when sitting down on those long dakar stretches). These shorter stages, with more standup riding you might want them a little flatter. Dont need a fairing for high speed runs either imho. Keeping m low and flat is a little bit safer too when you go over the bars
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