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Old 04-03-2014, 10:23 AM   #2011
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Too much Fuel....LOL I'm happy with my 6.3 gallon tank it lets me get anywhere I need to be.

That rear subframe looks nice...yeah I think it's time if you are carrying that much for a bigger Adventure bike not to replace but to share the stable with the XR650R.
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Old 04-03-2014, 11:28 AM   #2012
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Welding aluminum supports on the side and front of the stock subframe (where breaks occur) take cares of the issue and is much lighter than a complete steel subframe. You can find posts re this mod in the XR650R forum.
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Old 04-03-2014, 11:35 AM   #2013
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yep good luck with that ....ill take my steal frame over any ally supports you can come up with ,,,,,,
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Old 04-03-2014, 11:44 AM   #2014
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yep good luck with that ....ill take my steal frame over any ally supports you can come up with ,,,,,,
I've never heard of a properly modified (it's a major reinforcement) aluminum subframe breaking; of course if you're piling things up six feet high on a pig, maybe an all-steel subframe is the way to go.
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Old 04-03-2014, 12:33 PM   #2015
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Six feet high haha ..unlike you day tripers ..we ride remote no fuel .water or food for days .....its actuslly only a lil bit more weight .....trust me if you seen the frames you would drop your ally subframe like a hot rock .....y bike is in excess of 50, 000miles on original bore...we ride ...we dont drink coffee at starbucks
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:09 PM   #2016
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Six feet high haha ..unlike you day tripers ..we ride remote no fuel .water or food for days .....its actuslly only a lil bit more weight .....trust me if you seen the frames you would drop your ally subframe like a hot rock .....y bike is in excess of 50, 000miles on original bore...we ride ...we dont drink coffee at starbucks
What is Star Bucks?
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:11 PM   #2017
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Six feet high haha ..unlike you day tripers ..we ride remote no fuel .water or food for days .....its actuslly only a lil bit more weight .....trust me if you seen the frames you would drop your ally subframe like a hot rock .....y bike is in excess of 50, 000miles on original bore...we ride ...we dont drink coffee at starbucks
Sean-O, I think you've been around long enough to have seen the post a year or so ago describing the stock subframe reinforcement (it's massive). Just ask Mike from Manracks how strong it is; I use his fender support as well and it's worked perfectly for multi-night camping trips and long expeditions. I try to keep things as light as possible, though, to retain the XRR's handling capabilities. That takes a little planning, but it's well worth it IMO.

I've loaded the bike up to the point where it was a handful to deal with, wallowing and slow to turn, no matter where the weight was placed. At that point it stops being fun for me, so I prefer not to do it. To each his own.

I don't know what Starbucks has to do with anything...don't even drink coffee.

The XRR is a versatile machine and fits a lot of riding styles. But no one has to grossly overload their pig to be a "real man."
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:13 PM   #2018
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I think Gildus should find the post about the subframe reinforcement for us. I'm not sure I've seen it.
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:23 PM   #2019
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This is a CycleWorks rack. I can't attest to how strong it is. Haven't had it long enough. Time will tell. I did see a pic of a TW200 that had been ass-ended with the rack. The rack looked un-scathed! This rack seems to be a subframe. I'm hoping the empty holster makes someone think, there is a guy close by with a 357, maybe I better not touch it! The shoulder bag (purse) is full of 0-shit tools, zip-ties, flat repair kit, and papers for the man. I don't think the bike is over-loaded, it's still pulls the front end off the ground in most gears. I love the wind protection.

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Old 04-03-2014, 01:33 PM   #2020
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I think Gildus should find the post about the subframe reinforcement for us. I'm not sure I've seen it.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...3#post16975393

Hontri later posted that it's held up like a champ. If you read all his posts you'll see this is a guy who knows his sh**.
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Old 04-03-2014, 01:46 PM   #2021
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ok, yea, i remember seeing that now, it was a long time ago. look to be about where Manracks was gaining interest and building up his ideas for his company also. That reinforcement was beefy as all known.
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Old 04-03-2014, 11:20 PM   #2022
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The steel subracks I've gotten my hands on may not be the latest ones you folks are talking about, but they were shockingly heavy.

Given the design restraints, I don't see how a steal set can be competitive with aluminum in any of the key assemssment areas.

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Old 04-04-2014, 02:32 AM   #2023
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no there not these are custom made here in Australia ....look all im saying is there better there tuffer they stiffen the bike up a tad i like it and so do the other owners .....ill bet my ass you can beef up the stock frame all you like and maybe it wont crack maybe it will ...but you can be sure on 1 thing .... you wont find a ally welder near you

i dont carry loads of gear ... i do carry a fair amount of fuel and water ..both of which gets consumed long the days riding .....do what you like i know what works for me and i have the miles to show it ....

have a good day ..but make part of it sitting on ya bike its more fun
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Old 04-04-2014, 08:25 AM   #2024
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I hear ya. Deep into a rebuild here so it'll be a while before I can her out there. Damn weather's been good too

I don't know what I was thinking!! I see now the argument over steel subframes was really about whether the aluminum jobs would be able to carry enough beer far enough and dependably enough to maintain life on a long trip. For such a critical payload, who cares about the extra weight? :)

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Old 04-07-2014, 09:05 PM   #2025
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Hey guys I just laced up a set of black pro wheels, my stock rims were shot! The front was bent so many times and the rear had a huge crack in it.
is that the ims 3.2 gallon tank on that weapon
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