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Old 04-19-2014, 09:29 AM   #20086
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Now on a tubeless tire a puncture is the end of the tire. But with a tubed tire can't you just put new tube in and G2G?
A puncture on tubeless can be repaired but the puncture needs to be in the middle few inches of the tread. The repair has to be a mushroom inserted from the inside and vulcanized.
You have to work out whether it's worth the cost (30ish) over the mileage left in that tyre compared to the cost of just fitting a new one.
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:36 AM   #20087
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Now on a tubeless tire a puncture is the end of the tire. But with a tubeb tire can't you just put new tube in and G2G?

Just plug the tubeless and keep riding. Why would it be the end of the tire? You don't even have to take the tire off and most times you can pull the offending object out of the tire if you notice it soon enough, plug it, and still have enough air in the tire for safe travel to somewhere to air up if you happen to not have a pump with you. I've got 10k's of miles on plugged tires. Never an issue. Got one in my rear anakee2 now with about 10k miles on it.

I converted my Xchallenge rear to tubeless for the above simplicity of dealing with a puncture.
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Old 04-19-2014, 09:59 AM   #20088
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Thumb You're both right.

I've been using plugs for at least 20 years. The type I use are plugged from the inside. I do always try to get whatever caused the leak out of the tire first. Some plugs are designed with a patch attached. These plugs are used just like a traditional repair where the tire is taken off the rim and buffed around the hole, then glued before the plug is inserted, and stitched, (run over with a patch roller) and the excess plug is cut off flush with the tread. This type of patched plug is usually considered a better fix.
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Old 04-19-2014, 05:13 PM   #20089
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Now on a tubeless tire a puncture is the end of the tire. But with a tubeb tire can't you just put new tube in and G2G?
the main benefit of tubeless tyres is they normally go down slowly allowing you to get it stopped.
Tubed tyres go down in the blink of an eye and make for some interesting times if you can stay on it
Tubeless can be plugged reinflated and ride away within minutes, tubeless have to be stripped and patched or a new tube fitted
There is a reason why all modern cars run tubeless tyres, give me tubeless any day
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Old 04-20-2014, 11:43 AM   #20090
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So if I am reading it correctly, the OEM Battlewings on my 2011 xc, front 90/90-21 is bias ply; the Rear 150/70-17 is radial ply. The Heidenaus appear to be bias front and rear-can't find the specific designation on line or on the tire. If I should decide to try the full bores, should I go m-40 radial on the rear and m-41 on the front (only have 90/90-21 in bias).

I thought you weren't supposed to mix radial and bias, yet it appears that several Triumph models do.
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Old 04-20-2014, 12:29 PM   #20091
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So if I am reading it correctly, the OEM Battlewings on my 2011 xc, front 90/90-21 is bias ply; the Rear 150/70-17 is radial ply. The Heidenaus appear to be bias front and rear-can't find the specific designation on line or on the tire. If I should decide to try the full bores, should I go m-40 radial on the rear and m-41 on the front (only have 90/90-21 in bias).

I thought you weren't supposed to mix radial and bias, yet it appears that several Triumph models do.
BMW used to mix radial and bias on their F650 as well. Common and no biggie.
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Old 04-20-2014, 01:14 PM   #20092
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So if I am reading it correctly, the OEM Battlewings on my 2011 xc, front 90/90-21 is bias ply; the Rear 150/70-17 is radial ply. The Heidenaus appear to be bias front and rear-can't find the specific designation on line or on the tire. If I should decide to try the full bores, should I go m-40 radial on the rear and m-41 on the front (only have 90/90-21 in bias).

I thought you weren't supposed to mix radial and bias, yet it appears that several Triumph models do.
It's a common misconception that you can't mix radial and cross ply. You can. BUT you can only do it by having the radial on the rear.
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Old 04-20-2014, 03:03 PM   #20093
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I stumbled across this web site, this guy has spent considerable time making 800XC Service videos.
http://www.muddysump.com/servicing/tiger-800/

This should be a big help to some people on this forum
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Old 04-20-2014, 04:39 PM   #20094
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Finally hit 300 miles today and can now take her to 6000rpm. I am truly loving this bike more and more. Seems to have all of what I loved about my Sprint ST and none of what I didn't like about it. Now if they would just sweep the fun roads.
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:05 PM   #20095
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Old 04-20-2014, 07:11 PM   #20096
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Finally hit 300 miles today and can now take her to 6000rpm. I am truly loving this bike more and more. Seems to have all of what I loved about my Sprint ST and none of what I didn't like about it. Now if they would just sweep the fun roads.
Exactly this. I transferred from the Sprint ST also. I hit 9000 on mine today and it is still as much fun as the first 300.
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Old 04-21-2014, 12:15 AM   #20097
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Finally hit 300 miles today and can now take her to 6000rpm. I am truly loving this bike more and more. Seems to have all of what I loved about my Sprint ST and none of what I didn't like about it. Now if they would just sweep the fun roads.
Just wait until you're allowed above 6000rpm.............................
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Old 04-21-2014, 06:52 AM   #20098
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Just wait until you're nudging the rev limiter in second gear on a steep section of mountain hairpins.............................
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Old 04-21-2014, 06:54 PM   #20099
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I think I'll give that a shot tomorrow on the "Million Dollar Highway" SW Colorado
Hope this dodgy chain holds up

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Old 04-21-2014, 07:40 PM   #20100
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I did the million dollar highway last June on my XC. They musta had some money left over from construction because they spent the last few dollars on "chipping" the whole effing road to Ouray!
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